"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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I've had similar conversations with CD at White Plains. The gist of
them is usually something like, "unable 8000 due to icing", "OK, you
need to work it out with the departure controller once you're in the
air".

It's stupid, but at least you need to stick to your guns. I've done it
a few times. You take off, and check in with departu

"New York, Arrow 3875T, 1200 climbing 3000".

"Radar contact, climb maintain 8000".

"Unable 8000 due to icing"

"Nobody told me that, weren't you cleared to 8000 on the ground?"

"Yup, and I said unable, and the ground controller told me to work it
out with you"

eventually, they find something to do with you, but it sure doesn't seem
like the right way to run things.


What was your plan if departure couldn't find something to do with you?