Kirk, pry yourself away from the stinkin' prairie of IL (I know it well) and come fly with us out West occasionally. You'll get an appreciation for what Tom is saying. But wait, during your military career you must have spent some time over the high desert, right?
Herb

Herb, I've got plenty of time over the high desert during 20 years flying out of Phoenix. Got my diamonds (all three - I hate paperwork) out of Turf to the Grand Canyon and back. Flew to Parowan one Sunday on a whim in my LS6, and took the first tow the following day and flew back to Turf. I've raced at Moriarty and El Tiro, and explored most of Arizona by glider.

Lots of really scary tiger country out there - to go with the awesome lift (most of the time...). Planning for a landout was not something to take lightly!

And yes, BTDT in jets, too.

Sure, my use of O2 has gone down a lot since I've moved to StL, but while different, the flying is just as much fun...

cheers,

Kirk
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