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Old November 30th 03, 08:42 PM
Jeff
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Watch out for those controllers, they sometimes have a tendency of doing wierd
things. I know one guy who got a non-standard hold on his checkride, they never
give non-standard holds, but they did that one time, when I did mine, it was
getting late and all the bigboys were starting tocome in (did my approaches at
LAS , Las vegas Int.) and they started cutting my approaches short and gave me
something they hadnt before. When I was on the missed, they gave me a "turn left
xx intercept the BLD xxx radial inbound" so instead of sending me back to the
VOR and doing my approach from the IAF, they were going to have me start it
inside the FAF.

So far I have never done a "real hold" or flown an entire approach, I have been
told it would be 7 min. before they could get me down and was told to do "some
little boxes", been zig-zaged all over the LA basin trying to get into long
beach, in actual weather it seems to take longer to get down then in VFR (on an
IFR flight plan), in VMC its pretty quick, in IMC, they fly you all over untill
they are ready for you. Also in IMC they seemed to always keep me high,
9000-12000 ft, then slam dunk me onto the ILS. Of course it varies with
different airports/controllers.

Jeff

"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote:

GOOD! That is what I was wondering.. Come to think of it, when I have my
checkride the closest to a 'spontaneous' moment would be when/if the
checkride examiner says that the weather is down at my destination and to
set-up for the alternate - which of course is already planned.

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Good Flights!

Cecil E. Chapman, Jr.
PP-ASEL

"We who fly do so for the love of flying.
We are alive in the air with this miracle
that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"

- Cecil Day Lewis-

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"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:Caryb.287$yf.40@fed1read01...
most IFR pilots will "chair fly" the approach before flying it in actual
conditions in the airplane.. they will plan out the "sequence".. plan the
radio configurations.. tricky nav aid retunes (ever look at the ILS Rwy 13
at Provo UT? and fly the full approach starting with from Fairfield VOR)

So you are using a computer to "chair fly" and study an approach before
doing it in the airplane... makes better use of airplane time that is $$

BT

"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message
. com...
Just a question for y'all out there.

In-between lessons I've been practicing approaches using my OnTop IFR
program. It seems to work, very well, in terms of getting me to recall

the
procedures and frequencies by sheer repetition when it comes to my

actual
lesson day.

My question though: Is such an approach (pardon the unintentional pun)
wise/useful? Would it be better for me to go into my actual instrument
lessons totally fresh (of course, with a look-see at the approach charts
before leaving for my lesson) without any rehearsal / practice? I

should
say that I do notice a big difference (and satisfaction with) in my
performance on the lesson days where I have practiced/rehearsed the
approaches on my simple Sim on the days before my lesson.

Would be interested in hearing your input!

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Good Flights!

Cecil E. Chapman, Jr.
PP-ASEL

"We who fly do so for the love of flying.
We are alive in the air with this miracle
that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"

- Cecil Day Lewis-

Check out my personal flying adventures: www.bayareapilot.com