"matt weber" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:01:22 +1000, "Scott Hillard"
wrote:

And the F-15, which we should have bought 20 years ago, beats both.

Probably not. A recent exercise against current East Block fighters
revealed two very disturbing issues.

Ah, a military exercise.

All sorts of things happen in "exercises" - clanky leaky subs sink yank
carriers, hopolites with slignshots take out M1 tanks.....

Worked out how many F-15s were in the skies on 09/11 yet, Matt?

The F15 has an absolutely
enormous Radar Cross Section, several times an F18 or F16 RCS in fact,

Which is pretty much irrelevant in the modern world - all that matters is
stealth (F117, B2, F22, JSF), or no stealth.

it fact several times an F14, F16 or F18 RCS. The PW F100 also turns
out to have an equally ovesized IR signature.

Which didn't appear to be much of a disadvantage for the Israelis when
killing Syrians, the Saudis when killing Iraqis, the yanks when killing
Iraqis.....

The GE F110 has a much
smaller IR signature. Translation is that a Mig 29, so SU-27 can see
the F15 long before the F15 sees either...

Which might just happen if a pair of F-15s, with no supporting assets, went
up against a pair of SU-27s with no supporting assets.

And where might this happen, other than on a PC in some beard's bedroom?