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Old February 10th 08, 01:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval,us.military.army
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"Vince" wrote in message
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Colin Campbell wrote:
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:16:35 -0500, Vince wrote:

Colin Campbell wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:28:54 -0800, redc1c4
wrote:


i've yet to see you defend your claim that all ammunition resupply in
Iraq
is transported via air assets. care to cite the message ID where you
did that?
i certainly provided several definitive cites showing otherwise.
The most amusing thing was that the claimed to know how ammunition is
moved - but did not even catch on to the term 'Class V.'
OFCS

You are simply adding to the demonstration of ignorance

"Class V" is a question of supply not logistics


ROTFL!

Thank you for demonstrating that you have no clue. Do you really think
that 'classes of supply' and the logistics of
moving them are separate issues?


"logistics of moving them" simply indicates your total ignorance

Logistics is logistics whether you are looking at a roman army or a
Prussian one .

Transport systems are a tiny fraction of the job.


Here is a clue for you (now you can say you have one):

The term 'priority of supply' is part of the logistics annex in an
Operations Order. Each supply category is given a priority and the
highest priorities are the focus of the logistics effort.


supply, not logistics
Logistics decides what supplies you can or should have


Here is another clue for you (now you can claim to have _two_ clues!):

Each class of supply has different movement priorities. For example:
toilet paper (a Class II item) would not be moved by air because it
tends to be a very low priority item.

Class III and V are high cube and mass items that are typically moved
on the ground. However - air movement is always planned for as a
contingency because of its criticality in fighting a battle. Besides -
you have still not explained why we should take your
uninformed opinion as to the effectiveness of the aircraft over that
of the people who actually fly it and maintain it.


For the same reason we ignore horse cavalrymen battleship admirals and
air force lunatics who thought B-17s could defend themselves


I teach the evaluation of expertise and the problem of conflict of
interest. Ipse Dixit just doesn't cut it


Okay, since now I am interested in military logistics, I decided to look it
up
myself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistics

"In military logistics, logistics officers manage how and when to move
resources to the places they are needed. In military science, maintaining
one's supply lines while disrupting those of the enemy is a crucial-some
would say the most crucial-element of military strategy, since an armed
force without resources and transportation is defenseless.

"The defeat of the British in the American War of Independence, and the
defeat of Erwin Rommel in World War II, have been largely attributed to
logistical failure. The historical leaders Hannibal Barca, Alexander the
Great and the Duke of Wellington are considered to have been logistical
geniuses."

And from: http://www.army-technology.com/glossary/logistics.html

"Logistics
Logistics are the area of military operations dealing with the procurement,
distribution, maintenance, and replacement of materiel and personnel."