Erm. Have you forgotten where you are posting, Jake? This is the
Usenet. *Nothing* can tie up all loose ends on the Usenet. There
will always be one "But my best friend's uncle's third-cousin-twice-
removed's wife saw the sun rise in the West on May 2, 1904. So
there!"

"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Well, it ain't over
now!"