"RST Engineering" wrote in
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Excuse me, sir, I've used it to refer to fixed gear aircraft departing
a runway for some 45 years and 5000 hours, taught it to a few hundred
students, and was taught it by MY instructors long before you ever
became a pilot methinks ... or perhaps while you were still in liquid
form?


Only 5,000 hours and 45 years?

OK sonny.




Bertie