Not true at all, handheld GPS moving map units can be had for as little as
300.00 less if used. and non aviation units for less then 100.00. If you
don't know the area then you had better have one. But looking at the chart
there are lots of places where the airspace does not get restricted until
3000 feet giving you plenty of room go under the class b airspace. Just
because you can't do it does not mean anyone else would have a issue with
it. You simply don't have a valid point of reference.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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On Jan 31, 5:35 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
What is happening to the FAA? The new Class B airspace at KPHX drives
another
few nails into the GA coffin.

Huh? Why, explain.

Because it depends so much on moving-map navigation systems, rather than
just
VORs and radials or landmarks. If you don't have a fancy glass display
that
shows exactly where you are, you can easily bust the Class B without
realizing
it. In previous configurations, you could use PXR to keep you out of
trouble
through a large part of the airspace as long as you had a VOR receiver and
DME. Now you can't. Given the cost of advanced moving-map systems, many
GA
aircraft aren't going to have them, and this new configuration seems to be
a
deliberate attempt to keep GA aircraft in this category out of the
airspace.