I hate to disagree with you because you are obviously the most knowledgeable
person involved in this conversation and I have learned a great deal from
your posts and gotten muh more food for thought, but latest scientific
estimates put the universe at something like 12 to 15 billion years old.

Just a minor correction, but your point is just as valid regardless. I've
always gotten a kick out of that whole lump of clay and a rib thing myself.
If it wasn't so scary, it would actually be funny what some otherwise
intelligent people believe.

mike regish

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Would you be referring to the kind of difference between the fact that
the universe is hundreds of billions of years old, and the claim of
born-agains that it is only 12,000 years old, and started with two
nudists in a garden conversing with a talking snake?

Those kinds of claims and factrs?

Or some other kind of claims and facts?