On 19 Jan 2004 05:04:50 -0800, (robert arndt) wrote:

(B2431) wrote in message ...
From: (Denyav)
Date: 1/18/2004 10:31 PM Central Standard Time
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But the Germans were no where
near building a reactor, much less a bomb. Thus the choice of moderator
was inconsequential.

Germans had not one but two graphite moderated reactors and one of them was
in
Thuringer Forest,if Germans had no working reactor Hirosima and Nagazaki
could
not be bombed anytime in 1945.
Did you ever wonder why the entries made to log book of 89.th Infantry
div.between 4;8. 45 1,35 PM and 4.11.45 7,35 PM are also among document that
were classified for 75 years?.


Where did you get that idea?

Are you suggesting the U.S. had not developed uranium and plutonium enrichment
facilities prior to May 1945?

Are you suggesting the U.S. had not built any form of reactor or pile prior to
May 1945?

The Little Boy bomb and Trinity were just waiting for uranium and plutonium
respectively.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Captured German uranium was used in the construction of the US atomic
bombs, seized from the Belgian Congo stocks Germany possessed. Germany
also had seperate atomic research facilities, Haigerloch being only
one. Another was working on a spherical reactor for power project as
well as the two radiological weapons found under construction at the
end of the war. Although Germany did not build a bomb itself it did
technology transfer uranium to Japan's program in occupied Korea
(Japan's Genzai Bakudan bomb)... which we still have little
information about (classified).
Further still, Germany also knew about the possibilities of a
thermonuclear weapon in 1944 and nuclear power for submarines.
One can only wonder what would have happened if Hitler had not
persecuted the Jews nor regarded the German atomic research project as
"Jewish Physics" with little funding and no Fuhrer directive to build
such a weapon (Hitler was preoccupied with the wasteful V-weapons
programs). Had the SS Scientific Branch harnassed the mindpower and
manpower of Europe for an official German bomb project there is little
doubt the Germans would have had the bomb first and used it, probably
in 1944.
Say what you want, but both Germany's and Japan's wartime atomic
projects are still not complete as "sensitve material" is still
classified for both. What we are being fed is the same old stale
stories of "they were way behind and we succeded because of our fears
of a Nazi bomb" when all they really had was a small unorganized
research program and impure graphite.
That is just not accurate enough...but makes good official US history.

None, rpt none, of the yellow cake captured from Germany was used
in the US nuclear program. As for "radiological weapons" that is
a complete lie. Without an operating reactor you are not going to
build "radiological" weapons. Germany was nowhere near building
a reactor, much less a bomb. Japan was no closer.

Der Fuhrer is dead, get over it.

Al Minyard