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Old December 4th 03, 10:16 PM
Robert Moore
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papenfuss wrote

Hello all... I was thinking of helping a research group at
my school by volunteering in an experiment to test new ATC
communication procedures. Supposedly, the equipment is an
i-GATE desktop simulator (PC-ATD) that is set up as a Cessna
172R. My question is whether or not this time would be
loggable. Anyone know of this equipment? Along the same
lines, if it's a 172R simulation, is it possible to log the
time if one is not complex-rated? Interesting thought.


Read the following FAA document and decide for yourself.


ORDER: 8700.1

APPENDIX: 4

BULLETIN TYPE: Flight Standards Information Bulletin
(FSIB) for General Aviation (FSGA)

BULLETIN NUMBER: FSGA 98-02

BULLETIN TITLE: Authorization for Use of Personal Computer-
Based Aviation Training Devices under the
Provisions of Title 14 of the Code of
Federal Regulations (14 CFR) Parts 61
and 141

EFFECTIVE DATE: 05-26-98
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1. SUBJECT. This bulletin contains information and guidance to
permit aviation safety inspectors (ASI) to authorize the use of
personal computer-based aviation training devices (PCATD),
qualified and approved in accordance with Advisory Circular
(AC) 61-126, Qualification and Approval of Personal Computer-Based
Aviation Training Devices, toward satisfying the instrument rating
flight training requirements of Title 14 of the Code of Federal
Regulations (14 CFR) parts 61 and 141, under the Administrator's
authority for the approval of these devices under section 61.4 (c).

2. BACKGROUND. PCATD's are distinct from Flight Training Devices
(FTD) qualified under AC 120-45, Airplane Flight Training Device
Qualification, current edition, and flight simulators qualified
under
AC 120-40, Airplane Simulator Qualification. AFS-800 has recently
qualified and approved specific models of these devices for use as
authorized and expects that additional models will be qualified and
approved as they are developed by commercial enterprise within the
aviation industry. Guidance is needed to permit ASI's to become
familiar with industry acquisition and use of these devices under
the regulations without undue delay. AFS-800 has recently been
made
aware that inappropriate advertisement claims for the authorized
use
of such devices under parts 61 and 141 by some elements of industry
may not be in compliance with the policy intended by Flight
Standards
for their use. Therefore, the following policy is established to
ensure that only those devices qualified and approved in accordance
with AC 61-126 are authorized for use under parts 61 and 141 as
intended by Flight Standards Service.

3. POLICY. All manufacturers of PCATD models qualified and
approved
by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) are issued a letter by
AFS-800 identifying the manufacturer of the qualified and approved
model device. It is incumbent upon that manufacturer to ensure
that
subsequent models of its original design continue to meet the
qualification and approval criteria under AC 61-126. The purchaser
of a qualified and approved PCATD must have a copy of the
manufacturer's letter describing the hardware/software and other
components of the PCATD in the configuration, and representing the
make and model of either single or multiengine airplane intended to
be replicated. The qualified and approved PCATD is acceptable for
use
under the following conditions and as outlined under AC 61-126:

A. A PCATD, when used for flight instruction, is authorized
for use only in an integrated ground and flight instrument
training curriculum under parts 61 or 141. This curriculum
must be capable of providing training in all elements for
which it will be used as specified in the syllabus. An
integrated ground and flight training program is one that:

(1) Contains alternating modules/elements of ground
and flight training;

(2) Follows the knowledge based skills with motor
skills for each flight task; and

(3) Builds upon specific classroom knowledge by
immediately following with procedure rehearsal (PCATD
use) and then motor skill rehearsal (flight training
device, flight simulator, or aircraft use).

(a) If used for flight instruction under
part 61, the curriculum used must be in
general compliance with the scope and content
of a curriculum as it would be approved under
part 141;

(b) Under part 61, the PCATD may not be used
for more than 10 hours of flight instruction
toward meeting the 20 hours of flight instruction
permitted in a flight training device or a flight
simulator;

(c) If used for flight instruction under
part 141, the curriculum used must be approved
under part 141;

(d) Under part 141, the PCATD may not be used
for more than 10 hours of flight instruction
toward meeting the 15 hours of flight instruction
permitted in a flight training device or a flight
simulator;

(e) The flight instruction given in a PCATD must
consist of the procedural tasks listed in AC 61-126,
appendix 1; and

(f) The flight instruction given must be certified
as given in a PCATD that has been qualified and
approved by the FAA by an instructor authorized to
give instrument instruction.

B. Flight experience acquired in a PCATD by an instrument rating
applicant should be logged as "simulated instrument flight,"
"instrument instruction," and "PCATD." The time logged may not
exceed 10 hours creditable toward an instrument rating as outlined
herein.

4. INQUIRIES. This bulletin was developed by AFS-800. Any
questions
regarding this information bulletin should be directed to AFS-840
at
(202) 267-8196.

5. EXPIRATION DATE. This bulletin expires on March 31, 1999.



/s/
Louis C. Cusimano