Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:33:52 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f
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Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:01:20 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f
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Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile
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It would generally take a person 5-7 years before they
could
work
year round. 10-12 before they could work regular jobs on a
temporay
basis. and 20 plus to hold any sort of regular job on a
year
round
basis.

Railroad reschedual work on a need be basis (within the
scope
of
the
union contracts) so their is a big degree of non-control.
They
are
subject tot he demands and needs of the shippers.

Floriduh just gave CSX a big huge contract.

good

bad for the everglades or something, iirc.
or it takes from the general fund and the poor need the money
more.



Deaf as hell but no breathing problems...he didnt
know
who the
****
I
was
later since he was all alzheimersy & stuff.

My dad died from lung cancer (both Small Cell
Carcinoma
and
Metastasized melanoma.

Bummer...the smoke was it?

Asbestos and/or smoke.

Me-so-thee-lee-oh-ma.
nods

You got it.

Well I hope not

I hope so too. ugly way to go.

Libby Montana knows a thing or two about aSSbest0s...
**** WR Grace to hell.

Most all locomotive engineers from the diesel era
still
suffer
hearing loss. Most all operating employees for
railroads
with
more
than 10 years of service have some hearing loss.
About
ten
years
ago
the railroads started losing lawsuits over hearing
losses
and
started
a hearing conservation program. Too bad it was 27
years
too
late.

YEah...back in the day it was a macho job and you
didnt
**** &
moan
about the conditions.

The ****ed and moaned even then. I've listen to those
guys
all
my
life.

no...they laughed at management...but as for crying
about
the
conditions?

Yep the ****ed and moaned about that too.

Well yer fambly wasn't "stoic" then.

all to often the conditions were what you could make them.
the
trouble is most of the people were content to work in
substandard
conditions.

After the union busting in Bisbee Arizona in 1910 or
so...sure...beats getting
put on box cars, taken into the desert, and shot by thugs.

So much for freedom taken for granted, isn't it.

Union busting was a violent and oft forgotten part of american
history.
Trying to organise could get you killed, back in the day.


No real railroader would complain "its too tough".

Being gone most of the time? Missing their families? If
it
wasn't
for
the "good money", they would have left.

My grandpa was lucky then. He worked one line and was
home
often
enough...GNRY.

Dad was gone from home about 60% of the nights. The road
work
had a
layover at the away from home point. It was almost like a
second
home
for him.

Did he have a second wife?


Only after he divorced his 1st wife.

Ouch.

I ran across a stat for operating crew marriage expectancy.
They
usually last less than 10 years. We have one guy that's working
on
his 7th marriage most are on their third... I'm still working
on
my
1st. The rate was 1:35 marriages last until retirement. 50% of
new
marriage failing the 1st two years.

Possible solution: mormonism. Have a wife at each endpoint.
Problem *solved*.

I don't know if Flight Crews have the same problems?

Thats what the stewardesses ar for.

I wouldn't say that out loud, especially if I was going to fly in
the
foreseeable future.

I'm betting theres a watch lits with my name already...

Keep a low profile... :-)

Sure, I'm totally hiding out on usenet.

G00gle "atrios" radio, you might like it

I will, right now we are getting ready to sail back to Kehi.
It will only be a few hours sail. but it will take most of the day to
pack and clean the boat for long term non-use.

Scrape off the zebra mussels...

I have to fly back to reality Thursday.

What time zone is that in?

The stats might change now that the railroads started hiring
and
training new employees. Most of the new hires are ex-military
and
don't stay more than a year or so and most are divorced
already.

Hopefully they wont be ptsd and have flashbacks.


Hopefully...

Just increase I have prepared a few signs with arrows. Directing
people to the management office's (invoking Garvin's Rule allow
management to take the all blame, all the time)

HR needs to keep busy.

That reminds me of a joke I once was told...

Nice cliffhanger.

IT is... Isn't it.

you *******.

Most new hires are still pumped up and brain washed. They do
not
make
good employees.

Brain washed by what?

Military. Follow all instructions, without question.

Oh that. How many still act like that after they quit service?

Some do, it takes ages for them to start to think again. Some never
really escape.

They wind up living under bridges since the VA dosent give a ****.

Or just commit suicide by cop.
PTSD takes so many of them.

And alcohol/drug abuse the rest.

After WW2, one of my dad's best friends ended up being killed during
one of those flashbacks. Another became so bad an alky, he couldn't
function. At his funerals, I got to read some of the commendations he
got and the events for which he earned his medals. There were nine
other people at his funeral... sad. He died at home alone and drunk.
He drank himself to death.

The cost of war...

Today the railroad has cut
its pay for new hires to 30%. Wages have effectively
dropped
since
1985 to about 65% of what they were compared to pre-
1985.
The
employees with seniority (like me) have made up for this
by
just
working trips. I now work 25 days a month compared to
the
18-19
days
I worked before 1985. The cry was a demand for more
productivity.
the
Grace commission of Ronnie agreed. The funny thing is
while
productivity went up wages decreased. The number of
working
employees
decreased and got the average age increased. this
increased
the
health care costs and over the next 4 contracts the
carriers
cried
about the increases to health care cost. (the fact the
employees
health care increases because of increase of work stress
also was
ignored.)

I ****ing hated Reagan.
His passing made me smile

The only thing was he never felt the pain he caused. The
idiot
would
cut firewood for fun. did he realize his actions created a
group of
people that were cutting firewood just to feed their
families.

He lived in a lovely 1950's family show that played in his
head.
The world to him was just one big Leave It to Beaver
episode.

or Father Knows Best. I think he felt himself more like Ozzie
Nelson.
If you watch the way he spoke, it was much of the same phrase
tempo.


Some of the nicest people are really assholes.

^_^

I've heard that. But then I don't thing they are that nice to
start
with. How can you tell what an actor's real character is like.

Take away his script?

Some can act impromptu, ad lib and improvise.

Ronny slept a lot. When he was awake it was 1950...all over again.
Mainly because alzheimers victims cant rmember anything in the
*recent*
past so they go back to what they know & rememebr.

Father knows best, leave it to beaver, and ozzie and harriet (they
were on radio before TV). all considered mainstream "family shows"
Dad's worked in office's and mothers keep house. It wasn't ever a
depiction of Standard American Life.

It was a depicton of an *ideal*, not a 100% reality.

What part of it was ideal? Dad's that went tired after a day of work?
Mothers that cooked every meal and wore dresses, pearls and high
heals to clean the house?

Home ownership, the company man, a chicken in every pot and a *dodge*
in the garage...compared to single parent families where theres a good
chance the food stamps are necessary, I'd say the recovery period post
WW2 was pretty prosperous...for more americans than now.

Biggest complaints from crews which still use those
1st
and
2nd
generation locomotives, noise and exhaust fumes in
the
cab.

Ever seen a track weasel?

I seen just about everything. including the look on a
kids
face
just
after he finally looked up and saw the locomotive,
just
before
it
hit
him.

Ugh. Musta been a deaf kid.

Nope, listening to his ipod at full volume.

Holy shnikeies!!!

I just said "****!"

Sad.

It was.

When the conductor and brakemen went back to look, then
found his
Ipod laying near the impact sight, still playing at full
volume.
He was listening to some sort of Rap.

ZOMGZ! I *knew* it! "Rap kills".

That's a valid assumption.

It wasn't the train that killed him, it was the Rap!

Ipods are dangerous and should be banned.
nods

Well, I use an mp3 player to feed my music selections into
the
Car or
Boats music player. I have an 80 gb device. It also works as
a
spare
back-up. stores my Navigation Maps/RIS files.

Counseled use.

User beware doing *this* could result in *bad* things.


Ban in-car video screens in the front seat area.
OOPS! There goes the OnStar screen in moms caddy.


and those GPS units.

Only if they are voice operated or heads-up on the windsheild
projection
type. Heads up displays like in fighter aircraft should have made
it
to
cars by now....really.

Really. Stuff life speedo should have been there already.

I think theres a heads up display in a bmw or something...

cars for people that think their car shows their status...

It should be a standard item.

The standard should have been something developed years ago. in the
60's the Barrett Burried Guidance System was developed as a concept.
The implementation has been doable for years. Not to implement it
now, is just silly. This could control traffic, and actually stop
people from exceeding the safe speed for any corridor.


Volvo has a new crash avoidance system that looks pretty impressive...


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