Woody,
topics are as follows:

- NAVOPINTCEN SUITLAND MD message 250021Z Jul 87: Request for Persian Gulf
Related Info
- NAVOPINTCEN SUITLAND MD message 102038Z Apr 88: Speartip 009-88 Persian
Gulf Fighter Developments
- NAVOPINTCEN SUITLAND MD message 152005Z Jun 88: IRIAF F-14 reaction to
CVBG F-14 Ops (this document was almost completely blotted out)
- SPEARTIP 014-90, IRAQ FIGHTER-INTERCEPTOR CAPABILITIES
- NAVOPINTCEN memo of 6 Jul 88: Iranian F-14 Air-to-Ground Bombing and ASM
Capability

For an excerpt from SUTITLAND MD message from April 1988 about air combats
involving F-14s please check my answer to Pechs' post two sub-threads
bellow.

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Tom Cooper
Freelance aviation journalist

Author:
- Iranian F-14 Tomcat Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S7875

- Arab MiG-19 and MiG-21 Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S6550

- Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S6585

- African MiGs
http://www.acig.org/afmig/

- Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
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"Woody Beal" wrote in message
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On 11/10/04 7:52, in article , "Tom
Cooper" wrote:

Woody,

SNIP

Sorry, Tom. I should have been more clear--or perhaps I misunderstood the
scope of your posts. I don't have a lot of dispute with either F-5's
fighting MiG-21's or the use of Su-xx's by either side.

I do disagree with the Tomcat stuff.


-- Maj. Ronald Bergquist (USAF) published "The Role of Airpower in the
Iran-Iraq War", while working as research associate on the Airpower
Research
Institute, at Maxwell AFB. The first print was in 1982; I've got a copy
from
the second print run, published by Air University Press, in 1988.

This was probably the best book to this topic published until 2003.

2. Aside from SPEAR, I've never heard of many of your sources.

OK, here the full data of the last batch of stuff I've got:

- NAVOPINTCEN SUITLAND MD message 250021Z Jul 87
- NAVOPINTCEN SUITLAND MD message 102038Z Apr 88
- NAVOPINTCEN SUITLAND MD message 152005Z Jun 88
- SPEARTIP 014-90, IRAQ FIGHTER-INTERCEPTOR CAPABILITIES
- NAVOPINTCEN memo of 6 Jul 88 (the last would be highly interesting for
anybody researching about the downing of IranAir Airbus by USS
Vinncennes).


Subject lines? What are these messages about? I tend to agree with
Pechs.
Had the Tomcat been as successful as you claim, I think we would have
heard
about it.

As I said before. Claims on all sides during a war tend to be
exaggerated.
The way the USN keeps it under control is by tape review in the debrief.
It's amazing what the tapes bring out with regard to veracity.

3. You tend to attempt to baffle with size.

Well, sorry; I do not attempt anything else but to explain. And this can
often not be done within a single sentence.

As soon as I posted, I knew that would be your response. Fair enough.

--Woody