Was the higher kill ratio due to the GIB, or in spite of him?

And then, there was the "Jets Are for Kids" real gunfight:

http://skyraider.org/skyassn/sartape...ll/migkill.htm

Rick

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"John Randolph" wrote in message
news:%9oQa.6731$u51.954@fed1read05...
Actually, the F-4 had a higher kill ratio. It was a Navy F-4 that shot
down
the first MIG and no F-8 guy ever achieved "ACE" status. Having posted
that
fact I must admit that most of us who flew the F-4 are not particularly
fond
of Randy "Airhead" Cunningham.

And always remember, never forget, it was T.R. Swartz that shot down a MIG
with an unguided 5" Zuni rocket while flying an A-4. Oh by the way, T.R.
was a Demon Driver (although he is loathe to admit it!). If you don't know
T.R. then you have never met a figher pilot.

John


"Mike Potter" wrote in message
...
Has anyone looked at Osprey Publishing's book _F-8 Crusader Units of the
Vietnam War_? Is it worth buying?

The marketing description from


http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...ser=COM&per=36
reads:

F-8 Crusader Units of the Vietnam War

US Price: $19.95
UK Price: £12.99

About this book
Known to its pilots as the 'last of the gunfighters' due to its quartet
of Colt-Browning Mk 12 20 mm cannon, the F-8 Crusader was numerically
the most populous fighter in the US Navy at the start of America's
involvement in the Vietnam conflict in 1964 - some 482 F-8C/D/Es
equipped 17 frontline units. It enjoyed great success against North
Vietnamese Mig-17s and Mig-21s during the Rolling Thunder campaign of
1965-68, officially downing 18 jets, which represented 53 per cent of
all Mig claims lodged by Navy squadrons during this period.

Contents
# First Engagement
# Setting Things Up
# Making a War
# Action in the Tonkin Gulf
# War Begins in Ernest
# MiG Killers
# Assessing the Enemy
# Beyond the MiGs
# 'Leatherneck' Crusaders, 1965-68
# Final Word