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: The SAS was limited in capability because they were accustomed
to short
: range patrolling. They could not hack it when working with the
101st
: Airborne Division LRRPs who visited them in Phuoc Tuy province
in 1967.
: The Australians complained about the distances traveled on long
range
: patrols and they ended up getting tired and careless in the
process.
: There was no excuse for that on such flat terrain. The SAS men
were
: clearly out of shape.
:
:
: Oh Evan, what a sad trolling piece of **** you are.
:
:
: SAS: Phantoms of War, says otherwise. Why do you insist on being
: my patsy?
:
:
: Squadrons performance won great praise from their American allies
:
:
: David Horner said that his beloved Australian SAS whined about the
: great distances covered by the obviously better conditioned 101st
: Airborne LRRPs and that SAS men got tired and careless as a result.
: There was no "great praise" from these Americans, according to he.
:
: If only General Westmoreland could have gone on these patrols to
: see what a bunch of crybabies populated the SAS. At least the SAS
: was smart enough to kiss Westmoreland's ass when they copied his
: Recondo school back in 1960.
:
: Brown-nosing did have its rewards.
:
:
: In Vietnam the
: The SAS patrols had such an impact on the VC that one report
: stated that the VC had placed a bounty of $US5,000 dead or alive
: on the head of each 'Ma Rung' - Phantoms of the Jungle.
:
:
: Uh, not quite. : )
:
: Horner said that "$5,000 US" was just "a rumour". He said the SAS
: thought it was a joke because no documents were found to support it.
: No names of Viet Cong were given, which usually suggests "bull****"
: or bartalk after one too many Foster's. Horner mentioned another
: another "rumour" of "up to 6,000 piastres" paid for SAS men. Again
: he said that no documents were found to support this.
:
: They also can't seem to find the name of the VC who supposedly
: invented the name "Ma Rung". Maybe it was invented by a drunken
: Australian reporter.
:
: Another interesting part of Horner's book is the numerous group
: photos of Australian SAS men after 1967. Most of them are wearing
: AMERICAN uniforms and carrying AMERICAN weapons like M-16 and
: grenade launchers. The SAS was so enamored of AMERICAN airmobility
: and insertion techniques that they eventually used five helicopters
: to support just ONE five-man patrol. Australian infantry was not
: so lucky and that's why Charlie ran circles around them.
:
: What the SAS learned fast is that methods used in Malaya and
: Borneo did not cut the mustard in Vietnam. They adjusted, unlike
: your infantry units. Their actions speak louder than your words.

The difference was that in Vietnam the troops were under US command
and not permitted to carry out the tried and proven tactics workied
out in Malaya/Borneo

: (Read this book because you still need help) David Horner. SAS:
: Phantoms of War, A History of the Australian Special Air Service.
: Allen & Unwin, 2002. ISBN 1 86508 647 9
:
One book...
say, the Australian and New Zealand SAS were operating with the
American Special Forces against the Taliban or did that little detail
escape your myopic view...