"Mike Marron" wrote in message news
Basically, how does the combat go?

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Likely no
different than how the Japanese Zero's did against F-14's
in the 1980 movie, "The Final Countdown," starring Kirk Douglas,
Martin Sheen, Katharine Ross, and the nuclear aircraft carrier
USS Nimitz.

The F-4 never even sees the enemy? It should see the enemy from
30 miles away unless someone jams them, and most F-18s don't
have jamming ability (I think).