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Old August 16th 03, 08:02 PM
Robert Moore
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"Simon" wrote

Acting as pilot in command is the situation where the pilot is
(in his or her mind) the pilot in command. Logging is
independant of acting, you are correct, in the USA there is a
tenuous relationship betwee the two. Serving as pilot in command
does not apply to part 91 operations, as I mentioned in the
relevant post. It is a concept used in air carrier regulatory
parts, and may include time serving as (rated but not yet fully
qualified) pic (as in incomplete IOE) when someone else, such as
an IOE check airman, is THE pic, and this time applies to things
like high minimums. That is a very short summary and does not
include the exceptions, wherefores, herinafters, limited to's,
and so on. I include it because it provides a more complete
picture of the concepts discussed.


I think that you still have your words mixed-up. Quoting from
FAR 121 concerning Operating Experience:

"Section 121.434: Operating experience, operating cycles, and
consolidation of knowledge and skills.
(a) No certificate holder may use a person nor may any person
serve as a required crewmember of an airplane unless the person
has satisfactorily completed, on that type airplane and in that
crewmember position, the operating experience, operating cycles, and
the line operating flight time for consolidation of knowledge and
skills, required by this section, except as follows:

(1) Crewmembers other than pilots in command may serve as provided
herein for the purpose of meeting the requirements of this section.

(2) Pilots who are meeting the pilot in command requirements MAY
SERVE AS SECOND-IN-COMMAND.

(c) Pilot crewmembers must acquire operating experience and operating
cycles as follows:

(1) A pilot in command must --

(i) PERFORM THE DUTIES of a pilot in command under the supervision of
a check pilot;"

No instance of "acting as pilot-in-command" was found in Part 121.

Bob Moore
ATP B-707 B-727
PanAm (retired)