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Old August 10th 04, 01:43 AM
Peter Stickney
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John Penta writes:
On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 17:16:04 -0400, (Peter Stickney)
wrote:


There's "normalized" data (Standard Day, Asphalt RUnway, No Wind) in
the Standard Aircraft Characteristics charts, which are derived from
the same test data as the -1s. If you can psot a list, I'll sort
through my collection and post the relevant data.


Oooh. Thanks muchly.

OK, big list, bust I'm pulling out lots of aircraft so I can ask once,
you can answer once, and I can save the data for then after. (Assuming
something doesn't crash.)

a/c I'm looking for:


I'll fill it in as best as I can - my collection tends toward older
aircraft. In each case, assume Standard Day atmospheric conditions,
and Maximum takeoff Gross Weight Or maximum Landing weight as
applicable, unless otherwise noted.

C130 (in its various versions)

Aircraft Takeoff Takeoff Takeoff Landing Landing Landing
Weight Ground to Weight Ground Run to
Roll clear 50' Roll Clear 50'
C-130E 155,000# 4,125' 5,810' 122585 2,640 4,150
97016 1,920' 3,030'
C141


C-141A 316,600# 4,870' 5,700' 257,000 2,060' 3,990'
C-141B 323,100 5,800' 3,700'

C5

C-5A 769,000 7,000 8,400 635,850 2,230' 3,600'

C17 Nothing solid - sorry
F16
F15

F-15A 41,500 900' 41,500 2,500'
(Interceptor, Internal fuel and 4 AIM-7

F/A-18

F-18A 33,585 1,000'

B52

B-52D 450,000 8,000 10,300 202,865 3,300' 5,480'
B-52G 488,000 8,150 10,400 194,511 3,150' 4,640'
B-52H 488,000 7,420 9,580 199,150 3,650 5,920

F5

F-5A 13,663 2,650 3,650 10,433 3,250 5,000
(Intercept 9 x AIM-9)
F-5A 19,728 6,050 8,100 11,467 3,550 5,400
(Attack: 2 M117 bombs )

F-5E 15,745 2,160 2,900 11,953 2,425 4,100
(Intercept, using Drag Chute)
F-5E 20,486 4,000 5,100 13,146 2,600 4,330
(Attack, using Drag Chute)

KC-135

KC-135A 297,000 9,050 105,200 1,900
Balanced Field Length 10900'

E2

E-2C 50,920 1,590' 2,285' 39,756 1,250 2,230

E3
E8

Boeing 707-320 (The basic airframe for both)
312,000 10,700' Balanced 297,000 4,500'
Field Length

E767 (Does the AWACS gear effect these datapoints any?)

I don't have good numbers for that one. When my younger brother
finishes up his 767 refresher training, I'll quiz him.

And in the "why not ask?" category:
Eurofighter -100', according to John Cook. (Sorry John, I couldn't resist)
F22
Rafale (Land version)
MiG-29

All too new for me, I'm afraid.

Su-27
MiG-23
MiG-21
F111 _This one I can do

F-111A ( Area Intercept - don't laugh, it's in the book! and with all
that fuel aboard, it wasn't quite so bad - better than teh CF-105,
anyway The second numbers are heavyweight)
Takeoff Takeoff Clear Landing Landing Clear
Weight Run 50' Weight Run 50'
80,705 2,720 3,510 50,966 1,455 2,355
98,850 5,260 6,460 52,786 1,540 2,460

A bit of a definition here - Balanced Field Length is teh distance
that an airplane needs to be able to abort teh takeoff at decision
speed, and stop safely without using thrust reversers or drag chutes.

The numbers that don't come from the SAC Charts or Pilot's Handbooks
are Manufacturer's numbers as reported in Jane's - they're O.K., but a
bit on the optimistic side.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster