"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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"K. Ari Krupnikov" wrote:

writes:

For flights into remote areas that may not have a nearby high VOR
(unusal,
but possible) filing of a Victor airway for the last 200 miles, or
so,
is
acceptable

I guess by then you would have descended below FL180 anyway, right?

No, you won't usually be below 180 until about 50-60 miles out.


or even "the radials of V-999."

What's that?


Since Victor airways don't exist above 17,500, that is one way of filing
the
route without filing an airway that doesn't exist for the flight levels.
More
typically, that is the way ATC will issue a clearance to fly a Victor
airway
when in the flight levels. If they have you on radar it is a perfectly
acceptable practice. It works well in Montana, but not very good in New
Jersey.
;-)



Not nessesarily. I get cleared on Victor airways above FL180 in SoCal all
the time.


That's because the controllers in SoCal either have forgotten the proper
phraseology to assign Flight Level ATC route clearances along Victor airways
or else they just don't care. Technically, you fly the radials of Victor
airways when you are operating AOA FL180 in CONUS.


Chip, ZTL