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Old October 5th 10, 07:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval
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Default USMC declares AH-1Z Viper combat ready

On Oct 4, 7:49*am, Chris wrote:
On Oct 2, 2:21*am, Daryl Hunt wrote:

You would think that the Apache Long Bow could take on a Cobra
heads up. *While the Apache was progressing so was the Cobra.
And the Cobra is still more agile and nimble being much lighter.


I don't believe that chopper's air-to-air capability matters that
much. Before they could get into a merge they would have to survive
all of the fighters, air defense and golden BB's that are a much
bigger concern than another chopper's dogfighting ability. And for
that, the Cobra has a smaller profile so it should be less vulnerable
to BB's, but they are both equally vulnerable to fighters, MANPADs,
Shilkas, etc.

Chris Manteuffel



I've heard of helos being shot down by jets, including the
accidental downing of Blackhawks by F-15's during
Operation Northern Watch, and the downing of an Iraqi
helo by a F-15E-delivered laser-guided bomb during
Operation Desert Storm.

But has there ever been a helo vs. helo battle?

I'm talking about real combat, not wargames/exercises.