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Old August 17th 18, 05:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jonathan St. Cloud
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Default What magic do the JS3 and Ventus 3 have that the ASG-29 Does not?

On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 9:01:53 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
Can't you pay the quoted price when you place the order and have it
contractually fixed?

On 8/17/2018 9:02 AM, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 5:43:09 AM UTC-7, Brett wrote:
Bojack J4;974727 Wrote:
Quarter million dollars.....yikes!!!
Both the JS3 and the Ventus 3 are much less expensive. You are
misinformed - some posters should get their facts straight before they
hit send.

Brett




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Brett

No, I am not. Okay, perhaps I am on the high side by $20,000. If you have never ordered a new glider, budget twenty percent more than you price it out. In September of 2015 a new well equipped ASG-29Es delivered to Houston was $194K. A worse exchange rate, a yearly increase in price, shipping costs will be higher, new model base price increase...several years wait with more yearly price increase. EVERYTHING is an option that costs. If you are ordering a new 15/18 German or South African glider with a turbo for delivery in three years, it could get really uncomfortable if you do not have the better part of a quarter million dollars budgeted. I have ordered several new gliders and have always been unpleasantly surprised at how much more they cost than I had priced and how much longer they took to arrive than promised.


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Dan, 5J


Unless there is a historical low in your favor in the exchange rate, one is usually better served by changing money during favorable swings in exchange rate. If you want a new glider it will cost big dollars. Fortunately there are many ASG-29/27, Ventus 2's of all flavors, which for all practical purposes have the same performance as the latest JS3, V3, Dianna 3. In the 15meter WGC an ASG-29 got 1st, a Dianna 2 2nd, and a V2 4th. This tells me that if you are a competitive pilot, these ships are still competitive. I had several pilots tell me that the V2 was still the best climber even better than a V3.