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Old April 29th 07, 12:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Daryl Hunt
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Default VISUAL AIRCRAFT RECOGNITION


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In a follow-up, FAS noted that there are errors in

the
guide
concerning the
dimensions of US aircraft. Not only was the

recognition
guide
needlessly
restricted, but that restriction may have prevented

it
from
being
accurate.


Needlessly restricted ?
That's odd as it can be ordered by any unit with a
publications
account
with USAPA

It was at least classified FOUO, possibly secret. You

can
look
up
the
post
at
www.fas.org and see their Secrecy and Government
Bulletin.

It is FOUO.
If it were classified secret FAS would have been closed

for
publishing
it to the web.

You can't request classified publications from USAPA.
While FAS does at time do a pretty good job they are prone

to
hype
things.

The original debate was about AC Recognition. Now, you

don't
know a
damned
thing about that so you try to move it away into your area

of
expertise;
trolling on a non related subject.

Actually he mistakenly tried to claim the publication is

classified.
I pointed out it can be ordered by any unit with an account

with
USAPA.


You are a odd one to throw rocks concerning aircraft

recognition,
since
you clam to have seen P-38 over Colorado in squadron strength

in
the
mid
1950's
A neat trick since they left squadron service in the late

40's.




The fact is, you would be the first to bag a F-4 mistaking

it
for a
Mig-21
while the AF, Navy, Marine and Army Flyers will be the last

to
make
that
mistake. But those mistakes were made regardless. So you

think
it's
easy?
Don't volunteer for AC Spotter for our side. You will do us

better
to
go
over to the other side and help them.

P-38...

Tell us again daryl...

And you have yet to show me wrong. Now, I suggest you provide

the
proof
that
I was incorrect once and for all. But that would curtail your

EID
attacks,
now wouldn't it, Achmed.

Any number of people pointed out actual USAF documents that showed

the
P38 left unit service in the late 1940's.

And you know that there were no P-38s left in ANY Air Guard Unit

anywhere in
1953? I was told during Tech School that there were NO C-124

Globemasters
left in the Active Duty AF and to just learn enough to pass the

test.
The
instructors said they just didn't get the time to get it out of the
coriculum. Guess what, a few years later, I was at Elmendorf AFB,

AK up
to
my asses with two of them. And the Actives kept a whole lot better

records
and new AC than the Air Guards did back then. But don't let a

little
paperwork get in your way of a good lie.

Not my fault you got exiled to Alaska.
Not suprising given your abrasive nature.




If you are too dense to admit the facts it's not my fault.

And you visited each and every Air Guard Unit in 1953 to verify this

fact?
Hell, kid you weren't even a gleem in your daddy's eye yet.

So it should be fairly easy for you to cite which Guard unit was still
flying them in squadron strenght in 1953..



Simple fact is if there were any in squadron service in the

mid-50's
you
could easily provide the unti they were assigned to.

LOL, you sure believe in everything you read on the internet. Of

course,
only those items that bolster your fairytale.

Since my sources include the USAF site at Maxwell you might wish to
reconsider your bluster.


Nope, your site only cites what was in the ACTIVE DUTY Air Force and has
nothing to do with the Air National Guard during the early 50s. You are
just lying to suit your own story.


You keep it up, even in the face of other folks telling you that you are
wrong.


Your cites are only from Actives. And the 38 went out of service in 49, not
46 like you claim using your own cites.. But it was out of service from the
ACTIVES in 49. Using the C-124 Globemaster as an example, according to all
sources on the net, it was completely phased out of Actives by 1974. Guess
what, there were two stationed at Elmendorf well past that time frame. But
there is no mention of that fact anywhere on the Internet. As usual, if
it's not on the internet, it just can't exist according to you.


Are you familiar with how Air Guard units get equipment and from whom
they get it ?


Better than you are, k00k.