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Old July 7th 07, 10:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Default Navy F-35C Gets A Big Wing

On Jul 7, 8:03 am, (Harry Andreas) wrote:
In article , "John Carrier"



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On Jul 5, 10:07 pm, wrote:
See:


http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...plckController...


This means the F-35C will have a bigger wing than the F-15.


Crap . . . Don't even want to think what this redesign will cost. I
think JSF is an airplane we need, but does anyone recall the last time
a "clean sheet" design came even close to the estimated cost. I
understand part of the problem rests with the vendors trying to
underbid each other . . . and another part of the problem is that it
would be nice for the customer to have a better developed idea of what
he wants. Problem with that idea development process . . . is that it
costs money too. Dang . . . almost Catch 22


Sorry for the rant . . . take care all


John


One of my oldest and best friends is part of the F-35C carrier suitability
group. There are a lot of issues with the aircraft, many of which stem from
the design team's unfamiliarity with carrier operations and the design
requirements imposed: approach speed, attitude on touchdown, wingfold to
reduce deck multiple, maintenance implications ... the engine size makes R&R
difficult ... etc.


I went through Carrier Suitability training back in the 90's as a prelim to the
JAST program, which eventually morphed into JSF.
A very interesting class.

While the aircraft should introduce many capabilities that strike aviation
would love to have, I wonder if we'll be able to afford it in its final
configuration or live with the several OBTW's that will undoubtedly
accompany its introduction.


Note that the F-35C will be the last version produced. The Navy has F/A-18E/Fs
and it may well come to pass that they would rather continue to buy F-18s
than pay through the nose for F-35Cs.
I personally predict that few F-35C's will be built.

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur


The F-35C will have good export prospects. One rumor has it that the
USAF purposely limited F-35 wing area so that only the F-22 had the
low wing loading to be a top class dog fighter so that program would
not be jeopardized in favor of an F-35.

The result is that the high wing load F-35 does not offer good dog
fighting abilities to nations that can't afford are can't be given an
F-22.

An F-35C adresses this issue.