On 12/23/04 8:51, in article ,
"Pechs1" wrote:

As for anybody sayin' "I never lost to a (put A/C here)", I got spanked twice,
in engagements that are embarrassing.

Once against Wigs Ludwig, he in a F-4S, me in a Turkey(while in VX-4).

One was me(new VF-126 XO) in a A-4F+, Hoops Stewart, my main IUT instructor,
in
a TA-4(P-6 engine), with Tumor(our RIO) in the trunk.

Both of these guys, who's aviation skills are legendary, beat me up pretty
good. I 'assumed' I had the superior A/C, and on paper, I did. Got beat
handily.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Wigs was my CAG in CVW-15 circa 91-92. A LEGENDARY aviator and all around
great guy. The whole air wing idolized him. Flew the Hornet, the Tomcat
(day/night), and got qualled in the SH-60 (even as a HAC IIRC).

--Woody