"Maule Driver" wrote in message om...
"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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I've had this happen to me a few times. After a "remain clear"
instruction, the controller would say something like "cancel previous
restriction, proceed on course". The "remain clear" instruction does
not expire until the controller explicitly cancels it.

Except in this case, the "remain clear" was issued before a VFR departure
and is meaningless. Conversely, if the ATC and the pilot established radio
contact with tail number ID included *just before departure*, it does not
mean that the pilot is cleared to depart and enter the Class C. That radio
contact and it's implied clearance is equally meaningless. The
communications aren't meaningful until the pilot is in flight.


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I don't think so. When tower clears an aircraft for takeoff (at the
primary class C airport or from a satellite airport), the aircraft is
cleared for entering the Class C airspace.