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Old March 19th 10, 03:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Peter Stickney[_2_]
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:23:18 -0500, Don Ocean wrote:

Keith Willshaw wrote:


"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in message
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On Mar 17, 3:38 pm, "Paul J. Adam"
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Ken S. Tucker writes

I was told the Nazi's could have easily taken England, no sweat.

In the same way that the Japanese could have conquered the US in five
days in 1941 if they'd only bothered to try? (Land in California,
commandeer weapons and transport from the cowardly fleeing populace,
race the bad news to Washington, impose Imperial hegemony, declare
victory while forcibly recruiting all white females between seven and
seventy for "recreational services"?)

I think whoever was telling you this, was pulling your leg so hard
it's still out of its socket, and they're still telling the story of
"some clueless guy called Tucker" who didn't just swallow the hook
but took the line, and the sinker, and tried to eat the rod as well.

I think the source is reliable, my Old Boy was a WW2 vet spook who had
more access to info than any historian will ever get, and explained
it to me. That said, I don't want to play 'what if' games, ok. But
I'll let you in on a secret, the Brits had thousands of cannons after
Dunkirk, available for Nazi photo recon, made of wood logs, that's all
the Brits had was bluff, but I think it was good in any case, the
croats
figured it was real.


Britain was not at war with Croatia.

The Brits, had a few rifles left after Dunkirk, 2 or 3.


Apart from those in the hands of the 11 infantry divisions and 2
armoured brigades deployed for home defense.

Those 2 or 3 rifles came in rather handy in defeating the large Italian
army that invaded Egypt


Paint a few hundred barges black and gliders too, move out at 10 or 11
pm, and by 5 am the king is being raped in the ass by Nazi's. As I
said, no sweat.


There are a few minor problems, 50+ destroyers, a couple of dozen
cruisers 5 or 6 Battleships and 20 bomber squadrons would be taking
turns at shooting up those barges which would be moving at a slow
walking pace. Oops.


All sunk of course. Checkmate. Do you really take the German general
staff as being amateurs at warfare? That has long been Englands
downfall. Underestimating others and overestimating themselves.


Actually, for all their posturing, press releases, and post-war finger pointing
that they were the Jedi Knights and that they only lost because of the Dead Guy
That Nobody Liked, the German General Staff was pretty poor.
(Let's see - 2 World Wars, 2 losses.)
The never, ever got a handle on the idea of logistics.
Coupling this with a grasp of Industrial Economy that was below that of
Lemurs, and the overweening arrogance that was taught to them from their
first Staff School on up - I don't think it was the Brits underestimating.
There's a reason why the Germans fought in short campaigns followed by extended
periods of quiescence. They did not ever have the industrial capacity, either in manufacturing,
or, more importantly, raw materials, to make up losses while the fighting was going on.
As soon as you take on opponents that won't kindly allow you a rest - The Soviet Union, the US, and, to a lesser
extent, the British Empire, you were guaranteed to lose.
(Some of their uniforms were kinda spiffy, though)

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