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Old September 29th 10, 07:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Nyal Williams[_2_]
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Default TE probe up or down?

You probably had the string tied around the holes that make the thing work.
The yarn sucked away the moisture from the holes so that they could
continue to work and that moisture in the yaw string caused it to be
heavier and thus not fluctuate so much. That is good theory!

At 07:42 29 September 2010, Jonathon May wrote:
At 14:21 28 September 2010, Derek C wrote:
On Sep 28, 10:45=A0am, Chris Nicholas wrote:
This is pure speculation, but I wonder if Prof Frank Irving=92s
preference for the probe pointing downwards is because in his day,

and
particularly in the UK, cloud flying was commonplace.

It follows that accumulation of water droplets on the probe was also,
common. =A0After only a few minutes in cloud, it is usual to find

that
the vario starts misbehaving. (I find that typically, it suddenly
stops displaying rate of climb accurately, and then flicks to a
different reading, then settles back to something sensible for a few
seconds, and then repeats the cycle. I put this down to water

droplets
accumulating, to the point that they block the tiny holes in the
probe, then suddenly get freed, then repeat the cycle. I have no

means
of knowing whether my speculation in this respect is accurate.)

=A0Anything that can delay that, or at least get rid of surplus water
droplets so that the vario returns to functionality for a few seconds
at a time, is probably worth doing.

If you're not flying where water droplets are likely to accumulate

on
the probe, other things being equal it seems to me that keeping it as
far from disturbed air over the wings as possible is a good thing,
hence up.

Just my two cents worth.

Chris N


Gliders with short rear fuselage mounted TE probes often suffer from a
flickering and false vario reading when flown at high angles of
attack, as in a thermalling turn. I assume that this is because of
interference from turbulent air coming off the wings. I have also
experienced this effect with some fin mounted probes. I would point
the probe upwards to keep it as clear as possible from any wing
turbulence.

Derek C



We use to use a nose mounted probe on a K18 I flew,not sure how good it
was, but the yaw string mounted on it was much better as it didn't over
react as much.
Jon