"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 00:16:30 GMT, "Dudley Henriques"
dhenriques@noware .net wrote in
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:57:52 GMT, "Dudley Henriques"
dhenriques@noware .net wrote in
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Although some mid airs are survivable, and incidents can be easily found
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quoted, ...

Yep. Here are a couple of mo
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...13X33340&key=1
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...26X00109&key=2

Did you notice that all three I cited are civil/military? In each
case the military pilot survived, and in one case the civil pilot did
too.

I've been reading these reports for years. There's nothing new in them.

That sort of depends on how many years you've been reading them.

I've already said fifty odd but apparently you missed it .


If one looks at military/civil MACs that occurred in the CONUS, one finds
that in each case the (5) military pilots walked away subsequent to
surviving the initial impact. In only one case the civil pilot landed
safely. In that case a military fighter collided with a glider, and
the NTSB found the glider pilot to be at fault despite his having the
right of way.


Just be advised that in the flight safety community, (and I'm saying this
again for the THIRD time for you) we don't consider discussing mid air
collisions as a survivable condition, and as such, ALL instruction, and ALL
prevention education is geared completely toward AVOIDING the collision. A
VITAL factor in this education is the recognition that a mid air should be
considered unsurvivable. It should be apparent to anyone reading what I have
said on this issue that my statement "everybody dies in a mid air" was meant
in the flight safety context and NOT in the literal sense you have chosen to
challenge!
So if it pleases you to counter my statement by quoting case files of mid
airs that involved survival, I'll just let it be that you and I see this
issue through a different pair of lenses and let it go at that .
Dudley Henriques