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Old July 7th 03, 08:35 AM
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The SAS was limited in capability because they were accustomed to

short
range patrolling. They could not hack it when working with the 101st
Airborne Division LRRPs who visited them in Phuoc Tuy province in

1967.
The Australians complained about the distances traveled on long range
patrols and they ended up getting tired and careless in the process.
There was no excuse for that on such flat terrain. The SAS men were
clearly out of shape.



Oh Evan, what a sad trolling piece of **** you are.


SAS: Phantoms of War, says otherwise. Why do you insist on being
my patsy?

Squadrons performance won great praise from their American allies


David Horner said that his beloved Australian SAS whined about the
great distances covered by the obviously better conditioned 101st
Airborne LRRPs and that SAS men got tired and careless as a result.
There was no "great praise" from these Americans, according to he.

If only General Westmoreland could have gone on these patrols to
see what a bunch of crybabies populated the SAS. At least the SAS
was smart enough to kiss Westmoreland's ass when they copied his
Recondo school back in 1960.


Where are you getting these "facts" from?
The SAS started in 1957 as a Coy of the Royal Australian Regiment and used
training methods similar to the British SAS until the Borneo Emergency in
1962 when they were expanded to a full blown Regiment.(formally completed on
4 Sep 1964.)
At the time of the deployment to SVN (1966) the SAS also had one of the
three squadrons committed to Brunei.
Where was this so called "Recondo school" established?

Brown-nosing did have its rewards.


In Vietnam the
The SAS patrols had such an impact on the VC that one report
stated that the VC had placed a bounty of $US5,000 dead or alive
on the head of each 'Ma Rung' - Phantoms of the Jungle.



Uh, not quite. : )

Horner said that "$5,000 US" was just "a rumour". He said the SAS
thought it was a joke because no documents were found to support it.
No names of Viet Cong were given, which usually suggests "bull****"
or bartalk after one too many Foster's. Horner mentioned another
another "rumour" of "up to 6,000 piastres" paid for SAS men. Again
he said that no documents were found to support this.

They also can't seem to find the name of the VC who supposedly
invented the name "Ma Rung". Maybe it was invented by a drunken
Australian reporter.

Another interesting part of Horner's book is the numerous group
photos of Australian SAS men after 1967. Most of them are wearing
AMERICAN uniforms and carrying AMERICAN weapons like M-16 and
grenade launchers. The SAS was so enamored of AMERICAN airmobility
and insertion techniques that they eventually used five helicopters
to support just ONE five-man patrol. Australian infantry was not
so lucky and that's why Charlie ran circles around them.


Bull****, how come the US Military attached observers to our units, to find
out why we were having such successes against the VC?

What the SAS learned fast is that methods used in Malaya and
Borneo did not cut the mustard in Vietnam. They adjusted, unlike
your infantry units. Their actions speak louder than your words.

(Read this book because you still need help) David Horner. SAS:
Phantoms of War, A History of the Australian Special Air Service.
Allen & Unwin, 2002. ISBN 1 86508 647 9


Broaden your reading, to include other authors and historians.