Subject: 40,000 Plus Hits. Thank you all.
From: (Peter Stickney)
Date: 11/1/03 4:36 PM Pacific Standard Time
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In article ,
Mike Marron writes:
(Longtailedlizard) wrote:

Mike,
If I may offer why I don't think "Art" and "Auto" are not, one and the
same,
First off, I'm a regular reader but not much of a participant. I enjoy
reading the different posts, offering many different veiwpoints and
opinions.
"Art" has been posting here for some years now, although I don't agree
with
him at times, I enjoy reading about his life and times at war.
Many WWII veterans are departing us, its not only important for US
history
but World history to hear it first hand from someone who was there. I knew
many
WWII veterans, most are departed, including dad and my uncle. But like most
WWII veterans, they never talked about it, most I heard was from mom,
"daddy
seen alot of bad stuff", or yes or no answers from dad and uncle
themselves.
Its only "after" its to late do you hear about what they did or what
happened.
How many times I picked up the paper only to read so and so passed away,
and a
"oh! wow" I did'nt know he was a paratooper, Marine, gunner aboard the
Gamblier
Bay, etc, etc.
Also, these are old men, technology is sometimes daunting to them. I
remember
writing down specific instructions on how to turn on the computer, do this,
do
that, just so they could download e-mails with pictures of there
grandchildren.
Art is one of the very few, that not only talks about it, but maintains
his
own webpage.
Art is extremely pround of what he has done, and rightfully so. And
anybody
that has been apart of this newsgroup, has to admit that, lets face it, if
you
don't agree with Art, things seem to turn south real quick. Art is very
opinionated, pretty much, that if you have'nt flown in WWII, the soldiers,
sailors, Marines, infantrymen, gunners, submariners, cooks, supply
personnel,
etc, etc, etc, aren't worthy somehow.
But anyway, no big deal, we all have faults.
So!!, to offer my proof that Art and Auto are not the same, Auto replied:

Your stuff is the most interesting on this NG. You can't beat being there
no
matter what. I look for your posts every time I log on. Keep 'em flying.

Mike, KEEP 'EM FLYING, is strictly and aircraft mechanics saying, no way in
God's green earth would Art ever stoop slow low as to quote the saying of a
lowlife, yellow, uneducated enlisted aircraft mechanics qoute or as Art
calls
them Poogies or something like that.

Great post Liz, much appreciated! This is the one and only RATIONAL
response I've read yet, however, perhaps we should give Kramer a bit
of credit where credit's due here. In other words, simply because he
used a mechanic's saying (e.g: "keep 'em flying") doesn't mean squat.
He may have utilized the saying just to help furthur disguise himself
precisely for the reasons you so astutely pointed out (e.g: make it
seem like "Autocollimator" is some "low life yellow, uneducated
enlisted aircraft mechanic" ain't him).

Mike - You're really getting more than a bit thin here.
Next thing you know, you'll be rattling a pair of Ball Bearings in
your hand, reliving the Cheese Incident, and proving, by Geometric
Logic, that the Messboys didn't eat the strawberries.

Are we ging to have to refer to you a "Old Yellowstain?"

Odd thread tie-in here - The Caine Mutiny Court Martial scenes had,
as one of the principal characters, a Pilot acting as a JAG Officer.
A story so twisted, it could only have been written by Art Kramer...
of Herman Wouk.
(Hmm. Maybe Art is actually Herman Wouk? We know he's not Joe Heller
- They've been seen in the same place at the same time.)

--
Pete Stickney

Yes we have.(grin)

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer