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Old April 27th 07, 04:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Tankfixer
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Default VISUAL AIRCRAFT RECOGNITION

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In a follow-up, FAS noted that there are errors in the guide
concerning the
dimensions of US aircraft. Not only was the recognition

guide
needlessly
restricted, but that restriction may have prevented it from

being
accurate.


Needlessly restricted ?
That's odd as it can be ordered by any unit with a

publications
account
with USAPA

It was at least classified FOUO, possibly secret. You can look

up
the
post
at
www.fas.org and see their Secrecy and Government Bulletin.

It is FOUO.
If it were classified secret FAS would have been closed for

publishing
it to the web.

You can't request classified publications from USAPA.
While FAS does at time do a pretty good job they are prone to hype
things.

The original debate was about AC Recognition. Now, you don't know a
damned
thing about that so you try to move it away into your area of

expertise;
trolling on a non related subject.

Actually he mistakenly tried to claim the publication is classified.
I pointed out it can be ordered by any unit with an account with

USAPA.


You are a odd one to throw rocks concerning aircraft recognition,

since
you clam to have seen P-38 over Colorado in squadron strength in the

mid
1950's
A neat trick since they left squadron service in the late 40's.




The fact is, you would be the first to bag a F-4 mistaking it for a
Mig-21
while the AF, Navy, Marine and Army Flyers will be the last to make

that
mistake. But those mistakes were made regardless. So you think

it's
easy?
Don't volunteer for AC Spotter for our side. You will do us better

to
go
over to the other side and help them.

P-38...

Tell us again daryl...

And you have yet to show me wrong. Now, I suggest you provide the proof

that
I was incorrect once and for all. But that would curtail your EID

attacks,
now wouldn't it, Achmed.


Any number of people pointed out actual USAF documents that showed the
P38 left unit service in the late 1940's.


And you know that there were no P-38s left in ANY Air Guard Unit anywhere in
1953? I was told during Tech School that there were NO C-124 Globemasters
left in the Active Duty AF and to just learn enough to pass the test. The
instructors said they just didn't get the time to get it out of the
coriculum. Guess what, a few years later, I was at Elmendorf AFB, AK up to
my asses with two of them. And the Actives kept a whole lot better records
and new AC than the Air Guards did back then. But don't let a little
paperwork get in your way of a good lie.


Not my fault you got exiled to Alaska.
Not suprising given your abrasive nature.




If you are too dense to admit the facts it's not my fault.


And you visited each and every Air Guard Unit in 1953 to verify this fact?
Hell, kid you weren't even a gleem in your daddy's eye yet.


So it should be fairly easy for you to cite which Guard unit was still
flying them in squadron strenght in 1953..



Simple fact is if there were any in squadron service in the mid-50's you
could easily provide the unti they were assigned to.


LOL, you sure believe in everything you read on the internet. Of course,
only those items that bolster your fairytale.


Since my sources include the USAF site at Maxwell you might wish to
reconsider your bluster.



I don't need to prove they were not there, you need to prove the USAF or
any of it's entities were still operating any by that time.


Actually, yes you do. Us old hands know that the Guards got the junk back
then. Yes, the handmedowns. So prove it otherwise, But remember, I worked
on much of the Guards Junk on TDYs in the 70s that you will claim they never
had. But don't let that fact get in the way of a good lie.




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