On Aug 21, 10:27*pm, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:47*am, John Cochrane
wrote:

A little rudder
to help the turn along, a little back stick because we're not as high
as we thought, and in the glider goes.

I can't help but wonder how many fewer people would ever have the idea
to try the above if it hadn't been suggested to them by their
instructor's patter during training.

What!!! Are you ou are suggesting that there are instructors out
there who advocate raising the nose and over ruddering in the
pattern! ?

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