In message , Bruce
writes
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Others have launched Grob 103 and other "heavies".
(All weights AFAIK)

ASH 25 at MTOW? (750kg I think, same as the Nimbus 4D)

K21 is 600kg, Grob 103 is 580kg - 676kg depending on the version, Duo is
700kg.

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