On Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:08:11 AM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:
On Monday, September 25, 2017 at 12:00:49 AM UTC-7, krasw wrote:
On Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:04:11 UTC+3, jfitch wrote:

I do not recognize SYM from this description. Tiny buttons, too long manual, modal wtf, annual license? We are talking about highly complex problems (AAT optimization etc.) that need complex software. You read manual, learn program and that's it, I do not have to read manual before every flight. Talking about iGlide is useless, you cannot buy a device that runs it and is adequately readable in cockpit. There is no iGlide option for glider use.

I take it then, that you have flown at least 10 cross country flights using iGlide and found it wanting?

I have flown at least that many with all of the software packages I have described. I find iGlide to be "adequately readable" in the cockpit. It is as readable in most situations as the Oudie 2. I know because I have flown a number of flights with both, mounted side-by-side. Have you?

I dont do apple even if forced, so no would be the answer. But apple uses same display tech as everyone else, and you only need to take the Oudie2/IGC with any other high-end smartphone and walk out to direct sunlight to make my point. If holding a mirror that has extremely dark screen does not disturb you at all, congrats, you can fly with any device.

I did not know that Air Display M/L runs iGlide, they do not state that anywhere in documentation. Most of the panel mounted computers have decent or even good (matte) screens, but AFAIK Air is the only one with touchscreen. Touchscreen robs some of the screen brightness so it is not used much, too bad. I do not have experience with L/M, and what is the maturity of their software.

Modern touchscreens do not affect screen brightness. Older/cheaper resistive technology used in PDAs such as the Oudie 2 had a separate overlay for the touchscreen with an air gap. All modern smartphones have in-panel capacitive touch sensors, it is built into the display glass as an integral part.. I do not know what Air uses on their L display (the M is not touch sensitive). A touch screen does not work as well with an in-panel display in my opinion, because touch accuracy is required at arm's length. If the display is mounted on a stalk or RAM type mount, the display can be grasped by the thumb and 4th & 5th finger, and accurate touches (including multitouches) used even in rough air because your hand is anchored to the display.

The Display L is absolutely excellent in the SUN quite unlike any phones. It is as good a my Ultimate and Ultimate Le that is controlled by a ball track mouse.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com