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Old May 7th 05, 03:56 AM
Dave A.
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I'd like to think not. Otherwise, I've been wasting my time advising
student pilots on Usenet for many years. But it's true that all
information from Usenet should be verified by competent authority. There
are people out here who know Dudley Henriques IS Dudley Henriques.


In fact, I don't know you as Dudley Henriques, I know you as the guy that
posts a lot of well thought out information. That means more to me than
Googling the name. If you knew my last name and Googled it it would come
back as a Major in the Army, Field artillery, currently stationed in Iraq.
But that's not me, just a guy with the same name. Imagine what I could do
with that on Usenet if I were a schmuck. ( He contacted me from Iraq BTW,
because he googled himself and found me LOL)

You are what you post on Usenet, not what you say you are. : ) Any way,
food for thought I hope, and don't sign of like the guy that started this
thread.

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Dave A
Aging Student Pilot



"Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote in message
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"Dave A." wrote in message
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The first thing you learn in flying is NEVER to put much faith in
general analogies.


Well now no one said to apply the idea generally onto all of Usenet : )
I think the point of when it applies is clear.


Not really, but there is merit in what you are saying and a total ignore
protocol will indeed serve a specific function; that being to avoid the
flame posts which obviously take two or more people for engagement to
occur.
It should be noted however, that when there is a real name and reputation
involved in the scenario due to one or both participants using a real
name, the protocol of ignoring the post is flawed. You can still ignore
the attack, which will solve for the flame equation, but the potential
consequences are much different than they would have been if complete
anonymity through pseudonym had been present in the attack equation.
Personally, I believe it would be better if no real names were used on
Usenet. If there is one thing I would change had I the chance to do it
over again, I would never have appeared on Usenet using my own name.



No my friend....unfortunately it's man's basic flaws and individual
personalities that will determine how communication is carried out on
Usenet, not the old "ignore um" analogy.
But it sounds good anyway :-)))))

Dudley Henriques



Actually, when you consider no one on Usenet can do anything to you, (or
if they perceive they can, they are wrong) then it begs the question, why
do you care what they think?





"Ignore them" is not the point I make, "Know yourself and be self aware"
is more like it.


No, in effect, you are making the "ignore them: argument, which is fine as
I said for the poster not using a real name. If someone is here in
reality, using their own name, then it simply becomes an issue of how much
unanswered attack you wish to leave out here going unanswered.

The bottom line in all this is really the pseudonym option rather than the
real name option. In this scenario, the "ignore the attack" protocol will
function to the benefit of all concerned.

Further more, my last piece of wisdom on "who cares about Usenet anyway?"
is that it is rare to find anyone who's mind can be changed through
Usenet


True enough.

(R.A.S. seems to be a wonderful exception, but I digress).


This is correct, and the main reason I came on Usenet to begin with.


Personally,
anything I read on Usenet is always taken with a grain of salt, no matter
who writes it. Shouldn't it be that way?


For those who don't know me I
could also be a 94 year old woman with a big wart on my ass,sitting in a
dark room in front of a computer monitor with a cigarette dangling out of
my toothless mouth, pushing my cat off the keyboard so I can bull**** the
world into thinking I'm Dudley Henriques.
The real answer to using the established Usenet protocols lies in using a
false name instead of a real name. As I said, if I had it to do again,
that is absolutely the way it would be.
In the meantime, I'm afraid I'll just have to deal with the nut cases as
they come up. I'll ignore them if I can, if that helps any :-))
Dudley



In any case, the approach is hardly "ignore them." My thoughts on the
subject come from the course the NYPD put us through called Verbal Judo
http://www.verbaljudo.org/verbaljudolawenforcement.html

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Dave A
Aging Student Pilot

"Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote in message
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"Dave A." wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote in message


Forgive me if this comes out wrong, bit this reminds me of a few things
I discussed with my wife. She had problems with a few acquaintances
that imposed themselves as friends. They would set lunch dates with
her and give her grief if she did not accept or would cancel. Each
meeting she would find draining because these "friends" would complain
about their lives endlessly.

So I had to tell her a little thing I learned years ago that helped
change things, "Just because the phone rings doesn't mean you have to
answer it."
This helped me when I was an Auxiliary police officer here in New York.
An unarmed volunteer in a very real police uniform walking the beat in
Queens. There you learn early on that just because a person is yelling
profanity doesn't mean you have to yell back.
You learn that flashing a badge doesn't mean squat to a person that is
just plain ****ed off, and also that no amount of reasoning will stop a
person that wants to rant. Working in this capacity one would think
"well, real cops have it easier because they have guns and people
respect that." Well, that isn't true. They have it worse.
You would think you could tell a person while in a police uniform that
"there is a power line down ahead, you can't drive down this road,"
that they would not yell at you " I HAVE to get down that road. Nope.
You know what works best there? You say, "well you can't" and you
direct your attention elsewhere. They mutter and drive off. Arguing
just prolongs the incident.
So,

This brings me to my way if dealing with Usenet and it has a lot to do
with what you say here;
"you have a tendency to learn early on what's important and what isn't
important in life"

ignoring the knuckleheads "phone calls" is the first step to getting
something from usenet besides a headache.


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Dave A
Aging Student Pilot