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Old March 24th 17, 01:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Frank Whiteley
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Default We need an ASW-19 rebirth for $25,000

On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 4:07:24 PM UTC-6, wrote:
From what I've observed, shared ownership of gliders in the US has been rather rare, though it is a bit more common in my club today than it's been in the past 20 years. Splitting the cost and expenses four ways certainly should make several gliders attractive.


Frank Whiteley


Shared ownership was the norm when I was growing up at what is now Caesar Creek Soaring Club in the mid 1960s. Typically 2 but up to 8 partners. My dad had a partner who flew only on Sundays; we went to church so my dad flew on Saturdays and at contests. I started out with a 1/8 share of a 1-26 (one specific weekend day a month) but flew as much as I wanted because so few of my partners did.

What changed? Lifestyles. I'm not wealthy but earlier in my career I had more money than time regarding gliders so I own my glider outright. I never knew when I'd have a weekend day free and wanted to fly without having to coordinate with a partner. I fly contests and didn't want conflicts there, either.

Shared ownership is less expensive. But cost is only part of the problem. Club gliders and shared ownership gliders often sit on the ground even on good weekend soaring days. Soaring takes a lot of time and is tough on families (although we tried to make it fun for my daughters growing up, with some success). It's tough and frustrating to learn how. It's completely weather dependent so you can't plan ahead. There's a lot more ground time than flying time. Without a motorglider, you're dependent on others for launching and retrieves. You can spend hours waiting for both the former and the latter. Etc.

It's never going to be widely popular, either for participants or spectators. And I'd argue those two aren't that related anyway.

From a purely selfish perspective (the shame of it!), I just hope soaring survives long enough for me to continue enjoying it for a while longer and then sell my glider.

Chip Bearden


Chip,

Let's hope FAA privatization falls on its ass if you want access to airspace without your ADS-B toll beacon.

Thanks for your thoughts.

My involvement with US soaring wasn't until 1981 and I did have a partner in a DG-100, but I didn't sense there were a lot of partnerships in the region. Of course that was in PASCO and the clubs I visited mostly lacked a pulse. PASCO helped create the greater social environment. I had read much about the Chico Soaring Association and was looking forward to joining when I got to California, but the Casamajor brothers had run out of steam by then. The preponderance of commercial operators in the region made it easy to operate independently.

Frank Whiteley