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Old July 6th 08, 10:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
More_Flaps
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Default Landings Carthage, Jackson and Madison MS - Video

On Jul 7, 8:22*am, Clark wrote:
More_Flaps wrote in news:1d23a864-9d7f-4d01-ac12-
:





On Jul 7, 4:38*am, B A R R Y wrote:
Jay Maynard wrote:
On 2008-07-06, B A R R Y wrote:
You've NEVER had the bar slip past the next (or all the way to the
floor) notches? *You know, your finger has a touch of pressure on th

e
button?


This happened to me on my Archer checkout with the club's chief pilot

a
s
CFI. I just pulled the first notch back in while holding pitch

attitude
, and
wiped away the sudden sweat. Keep flying the airplane, and it'll be

fin
e.


Were you crossing the threshold @ 40 AGL and seconds from a landing?


I agree it's not such a big deal at altitude. *Personally, I want to
avoid leaning over to grab the bar at the moment I mentioned above.


Thursday afternoon, I landed in a varying 45 to 60 degree crosswind 15
gusting to 27. *With my luck, that would be the day I drop the bar. 8^(


Try doing a flapless for more control in a strong xwind?


Cheers


Hmmmm, other points of view:


I don't see that idea contradicted in that article -just discussion of
correct x-wind aeleron technique and nailing speeds. Having minimum or
no flaps (1) reduces ground effect (2) greatly reduce the risk of
upwind wing lifting (3) allows landing a slightly higher air speed
which will reduce the x-wind component and (4) a slightly higher
landing speed allows more rudder authority -so better control. All
these factors help in a strong x-wind and that is what I was told by
all my CFI's and it agrees with my experiences so far... Flaps are
not required for landing any plane that I'm aware of -they help energy
management but a pilot should be able to make a flapless landing just
as good as as a full flap landing -with a slightly longer ground roll
of course.

Where is this wrong?

Cheers