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Maintenance Manuals
While I'm on a rant, there is a sense in this ng that the manufacturer's
maintenance manual must be in the area where an annual or 100 hour is performed. I can find no such requirement in part 43 or part 65. Part 43 says that the maintenance manual procedures must be followed. Part 65 says that the mechanic must understand the procedures in the manual. Nowhere that I can find requires the manual to be on site during an inspection OR repair. Jim |
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:36:42 -0700, "RST Engineering"
wrote: While I'm on a rant, there is a sense in this ng that the manufacturer's maintenance manual must be in the area where an annual or 100 hour is performed. I can find no such requirement in part 43 or part 65. Part 43 says that the maintenance manual procedures must be followed. Part 65 says that the mechanic must understand the procedures in the manual. Nowhere that I can find requires the manual to be on site during an inspection OR repair. Playing devil's advocate here, Jim, 43.13 says "Each person performing maintenance...shall use the methods, techniques, and practices prescribed in the current manufacturer's maintenance manual...." As you say, though, it does not specifically require the manuals to be on-site. If you're working on a component, and one of the FAA guys sticks his nose in and asks, "What's the required torque for that part?", it seems to me that unless you have the number memorized or the manuals handy, the FAA guy can claim you are not complying with 43.13. If you get a *real* FAAshole, he could request you describe the entire maintenance procedure and dock you if you say anything less than a verbatim quote from the manual. But what do I know...the maintenance manual for my Fly Baby consists of a post-it note with the words, "feex airplain" written in crayon.... Ron Wanttaja |
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I don't know about you, but I can't *use* my tools, a checklist, maintenance manuals, or anything else unless they are close enough to put my eyes and hands on them. You're reaching. While it is obviously impossible to use a tool when it is not at hand, it is quite possible to use a technique from a document without that document being available... |
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Gene Kearns writes:
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:36:42 -0700, "RST Engineering" wrote: While I'm on a rant, there is a sense in this ng that the manufacturer's maintenance manual must be in the area where an annual or 100 hour is performed. I can find no such requirement in part 43 or part 65. Part 43 says that the maintenance manual procedures must be followed. Part 65 says that the mechanic must understand the procedures in the manual. Nowhere that I can find requires the manual to be on site during an inspection OR repair. Jim I guess they actually expected a mechanic to use a little common sense..... FAR 43 says that "(a) Each person performing maintenance, alteration, or preventive maintenance on an aircraft, engine, propeller, or appliance *shall use* the methods, techniques, and practices prescribed in the current manufacturer's maintenance manual...." It also stipulates that, "Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection *shall use* a checklist while performing the inspection....." I don't know about you, but I can't *use* my tools, a checklist, maintenance manuals, or anything else unless they are close enough to put my eyes and hands on them. Maybe you can.... It says "shall use the methods, techniques, and practices"; it does NOT say "shall use the maintenance manual". I see no basis for requiring the maintenance manual to be present in the law. Having the maintenance manual present for reference is a sensible procedure that I'd expect most mechanics to follow, but it makes sense just to require conformance with the procedures in the manual, *not* actual presence of the manual. If the manual is present but unopened, it does no good. If the manual is absent, but all the procedures etc. given in it are followed, I see no harm occurring. As you say, it expects the mechanics to use some common sense. -- David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/ Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/ Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/ |
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David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
snip It also stipulates that, "Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection *shall use* a checklist while performing the inspection....." Dunno about this boys, I've been following this discussion and until I saw this para above it seemed about right but this one will sink you I think. You CANNOT use a checklist that isn't PRESENT. I flew large multiengined aircraft for the RCAF for some 26 years...all but one type demanded the use of checklists and we used them religiously, all the time, every time. It was the only way to stay legal AND safe. So, IMO, you CAN use the 'procedures' in a maint. manual (even while the manual itself is in the library) but you CANNOT 'use' a checklist while it's in the library. -- -Gord. (use gordon in email) |
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"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message ... Gene Kearns writes: On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:36:42 -0700, "RST Engineering" wrote: While I'm on a rant, there is a sense in this ng that the manufacturer's maintenance manual must be in the area where an annual or 100 hour is performed. I can find no such requirement in part 43 or part 65. Part 43 says that the maintenance manual procedures must be followed. Part 65 says that the mechanic must understand the procedures in the manual. Nowhere that I can find requires the manual to be on site during an inspection OR repair. Jim I guess they actually expected a mechanic to use a little common sense..... FAR 43 says that "(a) Each person performing maintenance, alteration, or preventive maintenance on an aircraft, engine, propeller, or appliance *shall use* the methods, techniques, and practices prescribed in the current manufacturer's maintenance manual...." It also stipulates that, "Each person performing an annual or 100-hour inspection *shall use* a checklist while performing the inspection....." I don't know about you, but I can't *use* my tools, a checklist, maintenance manuals, or anything else unless they are close enough to put my eyes and hands on them. Maybe you can.... It says "shall use the methods, techniques, and practices"; it does NOT say "shall use the maintenance manual". I see no basis for requiring the maintenance manual to be present in the law. Having the maintenance manual present for reference is a sensible procedure that I'd expect most mechanics to follow, but it makes sense just to require conformance with the procedures in the manual, *not* actual presence of the manual. If the manual is present but unopened, it does no good. If the manual is absent, but all the procedures etc. given in it are followed, I see no harm occurring. As you say, it expects the mechanics to use some common sense. We were *required* to have a fresh printout of the specified MM pages in hand. Last weeks copy was NG, it may have changed. Some people rely too much on their memory and too proud to admit that their memory sucks. I bet this is the root of the cause of most screwups. JK |
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We were *required* to have a fresh printout of the specified MM pages in hand. Last weeks copy was NG, it may have changed. Some people rely too much on their memory and too proud to admit that their memory sucks. I bet this is the root of the cause of most screwups. JK I would prefer my mechanic to use the manual, even if he wrote the &^% book. Actually, the books aren't that great for most planes, so I wouldn't want to hire that guy anyway. |
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