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On 30/05/2010 13:08, Mitchell Holman wrote:

Thank you for posting, they are a timely reminder that despite
considering ourselves the conquerors of the skies our own mortality is
but a short step away.

Hmm, a bit deep that...

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On 30/05/2010 13:08, Mitchell Holman wrote:

Thank you for posting, they are a timely reminder that despite
considering ourselves the conquerors of the skies our own mortality is
but a short step away.

Hmm, a bit deep that...



I can remember the nationwide shock at the launch
of Sputnik, that the US was NOT superior to everyone
at everything.

On 31/05/2010 22:28, Mitchell Holman wrote:
wrote in
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On 30/05/2010 13:08, Mitchell Holman wrote:

Thank you for posting, they are a timely reminder that despite
considering ourselves the conquerors of the skies our own mortality is
but a short step away.

Hmm, a bit deep that...



I can remember the nationwide shock at the launch
of Sputnik, that the US was NOT superior to everyone
at everything.







So can I.

I actually saw it in orbit - that was in the dark, as a moving dot of
light - and was able to pick up its signals when it was line of sight on
my home made crystal radio set.

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Moving things in still pictures

On Mon, 31 May 2010 16:28:22 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote:


I can remember the nationwide shock at the launch
of Sputnik, that the US was NOT superior to everyone at everything.


The nationwide shock was the delusion of an ignorant populace.

Those who knew anything understood that Sputnik was an
insignificant bit of theatrics.

Eisenhower, for example, dismissed the whole affair as trivial.

Disclaimer: I was not born until well after Sputnik, but
my historical research reveals the truth.

rabid_fan wrote in newsan.2010.06.01.21.26.06
@righthere.net:

On Mon, 31 May 2010 16:28:22 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote:


I can remember the nationwide shock at the launch
of Sputnik, that the US was NOT superior to everyone at everything.


The nationwide shock was the delusion of an ignorant populace.

Those who knew anything understood that Sputnik was an
insignificant bit of theatrics.

Eisenhower, for example, dismissed the whole affair as trivial.

Disclaimer: I was not born until well after Sputnik, but
my historical research reveals the truth.


Absolutely right.

The Ike Admin had been able to launch and orbit recon sats several
years prior to Spudnik (sic). They were just too afraid of the
bear being provoked to the point of pushing a red button.

Spudnik made the issue moot...

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rabid_fan wrote in newsan.2010.06.01.21.26.06
@righthere.net:

On Mon, 31 May 2010 16:28:22 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote:


I can remember the nationwide shock at the launch
of Sputnik, that the US was NOT superior to everyone at everything.


The nationwide shock was the delusion of an ignorant populace.

Those who knew anything understood that Sputnik was an
insignificant bit of theatrics.

Eisenhower, for example, dismissed the whole affair as trivial.

Disclaimer: I was not born until well after Sputnik, but
my historical research reveals the truth.


Absolutely right.

The Ike Admin had been able to launch and orbit recon sats several
years prior to Spudnik (sic). They were just too afraid of the
bear being provoked to the point of pushing a red button.


Of course, for a whole year after Sputnik the
US orbital rockets kept blowing up on the launch pad,
showing just how "able" the US was..........

On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:28:06 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote:


Of course, for a whole year after Sputnik the
US orbital rockets kept blowing up on the launch pad, showing just how
"able" the US was..........

Dubbed by the popular press the Stayputnik ...

But when the US finally did achieve orbit, the first satellites
contained sophisticated payloads that delivered useful scientific
knowledge. Compare that to the Sputnik payload which was only
a cheap radio transmitter intended to dazzle the ignorant masses
with its incessant (and useless) "bleeping." That was a measure
of the Soviet state of the art.

rabid_fan wrote in newsan.2010.06.02.01.47.09
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:28:06 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote:


Of course, for a whole year after Sputnik the
US orbital rockets kept blowing up on the launch pad, showing just how
"able" the US was..........

Dubbed by the popular press the Stayputnik ...

But when the US finally did achieve orbit, the first satellites
contained sophisticated payloads that delivered useful scientific
knowledge. Compare that to the Sputnik payload which was only
a cheap radio transmitter intended to dazzle the ignorant masses
with its incessant (and useless) "bleeping." That was a measure
of the Soviet state of the art.




Of course Sputnik was primitive. But it got into
orbit, something it took the US over a year to imitate.

The plus side was it kick-started US educational
standards and ushered in the priority of math and
science education that served NASA well in the
following decades.

Mitchell Holman wrote in
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Of course, for a whole year after Sputnik the
US orbital rockets kept blowing up on the launch pad,
showing just how "able" the US was..........



Painting with a wide brush there, pilgrim. Refine your
searches. Read more (recently printed) history books.
Quit using Hollyweird as a source (your comment sounds
suspiciously close to a verbatim quote from the script
of "The Right Stuff"). One of these days you may
actually learn the full extent of what was really going
on back in those days.

Just in the last few years has some of the records/info seen
the light of day. Much of what you may believe as history
might actually have been a govt. subterfuge.