photo landing on SeeYou 3.95

I flew a TAT today at the Cordele, Ga USA contest, and as I always do
I opened my flight in SeeYou 3.95 for analysis. Except this time it
showed a 'photo landing' between the 2nd and 3rd turn areas, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. I have been using SeeYou for at
least 8 years, and am pretty familiar with the common sorts of task
declaration errors that can lead to this situation. However, this
time I can't get rid of it for the life of me.

I attempted to post this on the Naviter support forum, but that seems
to be screwed up too. I can't get an activation email, and since I
can't get an activation email, I can't complete the forum registration
and therefore can't post. I also looked at their forum postings about
'photo landings' and it seems that the SeeYou folks aren't really
interested in addressing this issue (assuming it *is* an issue and not
just something I'm doing wrong).

Anyone else had this problem with SeeYou 3.95?

Frank (TA)

Hi Frank,

I have seen that a few times. It normally goes away when I edit the
turnpoint sectors to reflect those used in the flight. To do that in
SeeYou, go to the Edit menu and select "Flight Properties". Then go to the
Observation Zone tab.

I think there are other tips to getting past the issue, but I don't remember
them at this moment. I'll think about it. It may have been other settings
in the Flight Properties windows.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Frank" wrote in message
...
I flew a TAT today at the Cordele, Ga USA contest, and as I always do
I opened my flight in SeeYou 3.95 for analysis. Except this time it
showed a 'photo landing' between the 2nd and 3rd turn areas, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. I have been using SeeYou for at
least 8 years, and am pretty familiar with the common sorts of task
declaration errors that can lead to this situation. However, this
time I can't get rid of it for the life of me.

I attempted to post this on the Naviter support forum, but that seems
to be screwed up too. I can't get an activation email, and since I
can't get an activation email, I can't complete the forum registration
and therefore can't post. I also looked at their forum postings about
'photo landings' and it seems that the SeeYou folks aren't really
interested in addressing this issue (assuming it *is* an issue and not
just something I'm doing wrong).

Anyone else had this problem with SeeYou 3.95?

Frank (TA)

On Jun 8, 7:03*pm, "Paul Remde" wrote:
Hi Frank,

I have seen that a few times. *It normally goes away when I edit the
turnpoint sectors to reflect those used in the flight. *To do that in
SeeYou, go to the Edit menu and select "Flight Properties". *Then go to the
Observation Zone tab.

I think there are other tips to getting past the issue, but I don't remember
them at this moment. *I'll think about it. *It may have been other settings
in the Flight Properties windows.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Frank" wrote in message

...



I flew a TAT today at the Cordele, Ga USA contest, and as I always do
I opened my flight in SeeYou 3.95 for analysis. *Except this time it
showed a 'photo landing' between the 2nd and 3rd turn areas, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. *I have been using SeeYou for at
least 8 years, and am pretty familiar with the common sorts of task
declaration errors that can lead to this situation. *However, this
time I can't get rid of it for the life of me.

I attempted to post this on the Naviter support forum, but that seems
to be screwed up too. *I can't get an activation email, and since I
can't get an activation email, I can't complete the forum registration
and therefore can't post. *I also looked at their forum postings about
'photo landings' and it seems that the SeeYou folks aren't really
interested in addressing this issue (assuming it *is* an issue and not
just something I'm doing wrong).

Anyone else had this *problem with SeeYou 3.95?

Frank (TA)

Paul,

Been there, done that ;-). I have also seen 'photo landings' when I
didn't have the task set up properly, or I forgot to change the task
type to 'Assigned Area Task'. However, I have done all that properly
(or at least I have double and triple-checked the settings and can't
find anything wrong).

Very frustrating. I just upgraded from V3.81 to V3.95, and I'm
beginning to wonder if there is some new setting in 3.95 that I don't
know about.

Frank (TA)

On Jun 8, 8:26*pm, Frank wrote:
On Jun 8, 7:03*pm, "Paul Remde" wrote:





Hi Frank,

I have seen that a few times. *It normally goes away when I edit the
turnpoint sectors to reflect those used in the flight. *To do that in
SeeYou, go to the Edit menu and select "Flight Properties". *Then go to the
Observation Zone tab.

I think there are other tips to getting past the issue, but I don't remember
them at this moment. *I'll think about it. *It may have been other settings
in the Flight Properties windows.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Frank" wrote in message

....

I flew a TAT today at the Cordele, Ga USA contest, and as I always do
I opened my flight in SeeYou 3.95 for analysis. *Except this time it
showed a 'photo landing' between the 2nd and 3rd turn areas, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. *I have been using SeeYou for at
least 8 years, and am pretty familiar with the common sorts of task
declaration errors that can lead to this situation. *However, this
time I can't get rid of it for the life of me.

I attempted to post this on the Naviter support forum, but that seems
to be screwed up too. *I can't get an activation email, and since I
can't get an activation email, I can't complete the forum registration
and therefore can't post. *I also looked at their forum postings about
'photo landings' and it seems that the SeeYou folks aren't really
interested in addressing this issue (assuming it *is* an issue and not
just something I'm doing wrong).

Anyone else had this *problem with SeeYou 3.95?

Frank (TA)

More on the photo landing problem:

I found that I was able to move the photo landing at 2:06 point to
earlier in the flight by changing the 'Task Time' value (new in
v3.95??) to a number less than 2:06. IOW, if I change this value from
its default '00:00:00' to 01:00:00, then the photo landing takes place
exactly 1 hour into the flight. I can move the photo landing point
anywhere up to and including 2:06, but changing the time to something
larger than 2:06 doesn't move the photo landing point to the right -
strange!

My imagination or a bug in 3.95?

Frank (TA)

Paul,

Been there, done that ;-). *I have also seen 'photo landings' when I
didn't have the task set up properly, or I forgot to change the task
type to 'Assigned Area Task'. *However, I have done all that properly
(or at least I have double and triple-checked the settings and can't
find anything wrong).

Very frustrating. *I just upgraded from V3.81 to V3.95, and I'm
beginning to wonder if there is some new setting in 3.95 that I don't
know about.

Frank (TA)

On Jun 8, 5:49*pm, Frank wrote:
On Jun 8, 8:26*pm, Frank wrote:



On Jun 8, 7:03*pm, "Paul Remde" wrote:

Hi Frank,

I have seen that a few times. *It normally goes away when I edit the
turnpoint sectors to reflect those used in the flight. *To do that in
SeeYou, go to the Edit menu and select "Flight Properties". *Then go to the
Observation Zone tab.

I think there are other tips to getting past the issue, but I don't remember
them at this moment. *I'll think about it. *It may have been other settings
in the Flight Properties windows.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Frank" wrote in message

....

I flew a TAT today at the Cordele, Ga USA contest, and as I always do
I opened my flight in SeeYou 3.95 for analysis. *Except this time it
showed a 'photo landing' between the 2nd and 3rd turn areas, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. *I have been using SeeYou for at
least 8 years, and am pretty familiar with the common sorts of task
declaration errors that can lead to this situation. *However, this
time I can't get rid of it for the life of me.

I attempted to post this on the Naviter support forum, but that seems
to be screwed up too. *I can't get an activation email, and since I
can't get an activation email, I can't complete the forum registration
and therefore can't post. *I also looked at their forum postings about
'photo landings' and it seems that the SeeYou folks aren't really
interested in addressing this issue (assuming it *is* an issue and not
just something I'm doing wrong).

Anyone else had this *problem with SeeYou 3.95?

Frank (TA)

More on the *photo landing problem:

I found that I was able to move the photo landing at 2:06 point to
earlier in the flight by changing the 'Task Time' value (new in
v3.95??) to a number less than 2:06. *IOW, if I change this value from
its default '00:00:00' to 01:00:00, then the photo landing takes place
exactly 1 hour into the flight. *I can move the photo landing point
anywhere up to and including 2:06, but changing the time to something
larger than 2:06 doesn't move the photo landing point to the right -
strange!

My imagination or a bug in 3.95?

Frank (TA)



Paul,

Been there, done that ;-). *I have also seen 'photo landings' when I
didn't have the task set up properly, or I forgot to change the task
type to 'Assigned Area Task'. *However, I have done all that properly
(or at least I have double and triple-checked the settings and can't
find anything wrong).

Very frustrating. *I just upgraded from V3.81 to V3.95, and I'm
beginning to wonder if there is some new setting in 3.95 that I don't
know about.

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Frank,

Try this

Go to Edit then Filght Properties Window - Task Options Folder -
Set the type to AAT and set a task time.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

On Jun 8, 5:49*pm, Frank wrote:
On Jun 8, 8:26*pm, Frank wrote:



On Jun 8, 7:03*pm, "Paul Remde" wrote:

Hi Frank,

I have seen that a few times. *It normally goes away when I edit the
turnpoint sectors to reflect those used in the flight. *To do that in
SeeYou, go to the Edit menu and select "Flight Properties". *Then go to the
Observation Zone tab.

I think there are other tips to getting past the issue, but I don't remember
them at this moment. *I'll think about it. *It may have been other settings
in the Flight Properties windows.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Frank" wrote in message

....

I flew a TAT today at the Cordele, Ga USA contest, and as I always do
I opened my flight in SeeYou 3.95 for analysis. *Except this time it
showed a 'photo landing' between the 2nd and 3rd turn areas, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. *I have been using SeeYou for at
least 8 years, and am pretty familiar with the common sorts of task
declaration errors that can lead to this situation. *However, this
time I can't get rid of it for the life of me.

I attempted to post this on the Naviter support forum, but that seems
to be screwed up too. *I can't get an activation email, and since I
can't get an activation email, I can't complete the forum registration
and therefore can't post. *I also looked at their forum postings about
'photo landings' and it seems that the SeeYou folks aren't really
interested in addressing this issue (assuming it *is* an issue and not
just something I'm doing wrong).

Anyone else had this *problem with SeeYou 3.95?

Frank (TA)

More on the *photo landing problem:

I found that I was able to move the photo landing at 2:06 point to
earlier in the flight by changing the 'Task Time' value (new in
v3.95??) to a number less than 2:06. *IOW, if I change this value from
its default '00:00:00' to 01:00:00, then the photo landing takes place
exactly 1 hour into the flight. *I can move the photo landing point
anywhere up to and including 2:06, but changing the time to something
larger than 2:06 doesn't move the photo landing point to the right -
strange!

My imagination or a bug in 3.95?

Frank (TA)



Paul,

Been there, done that ;-). *I have also seen 'photo landings' when I
didn't have the task set up properly, or I forgot to change the task
type to 'Assigned Area Task'. *However, I have done all that properly
(or at least I have double and triple-checked the settings and can't
find anything wrong).

Very frustrating. *I just upgraded from V3.81 to V3.95, and I'm
beginning to wonder if there is some new setting in 3.95 that I don't
know about.

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Frank,

Post your flight on the OLC and maybe we can figure it out.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

"Frank" wrote in message
...
I flew a TAT today at the Cordele, Ga USA contest, and as I always do
I opened my flight in SeeYou 3.95 for analysis. Except this time it
showed a 'photo landing' between the 2nd and 3rd turn areas, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. I have been using SeeYou for at
least 8 years, and am pretty familiar with the common sorts of task
declaration errors that can lead to this situation. However, this
time I can't get rid of it for the life of me.

I attempted to post this on the Naviter support forum, but that seems
to be screwed up too. I can't get an activation email, and since I
can't get an activation email, I can't complete the forum registration
and therefore can't post. I also looked at their forum postings about
'photo landings' and it seems that the SeeYou folks aren't really
interested in addressing this issue (assuming it *is* an issue and not
just something I'm doing wrong).

Anyone else had this problem with SeeYou 3.95?

Frank (TA)


Without a copy of the igc file I can't be sure, but if it was an AAT (which
it looks like from the task description), I would guess that the photo
landing is when the time ran out (i.e. 2h30 from the start).

On Jun 9, 5:40*am, "Peter Wyld" wrote:
"Frank" wrote in message

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I flew a TAT today at the Cordele, Ga USA contest, and as I always do
I opened my flight in SeeYou 3.95 for analysis. *Except this time it
showed a 'photo landing' between the 2nd and 3rd turn areas, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. *I have been using SeeYou for at
least 8 years, and am pretty familiar with the common sorts of task
declaration errors that can lead to this situation. *However, this
time I can't get rid of it for the life of me.

I attempted to post this on the Naviter support forum, but that seems
to be screwed up too. *I can't get an activation email, and since I
can't get an activation email, I can't complete the forum registration
and therefore can't post. *I also looked at their forum postings about
'photo landings' and it seems that the SeeYou folks aren't really
interested in addressing this issue (assuming it *is* an issue and not
just something I'm doing wrong).

Anyone else had this *problem with SeeYou 3.95?

Frank (TA)

Without a copy of the igc file I can't be sure, but if it was an AAT (which
it looks like from the task description), I would guess that the photo
landing is when the time ran out (i.e. 2h30 from the start).

Posting to OLC was the right thing to do. As soon as I saw the trace,
I noticed that the ENL levels were spiking way up, even though I have
a pure glider. There happened to be a big spike at 2:06 that
coincided with a low point, and I guess the algorithm in SeeYou
decided that I had started the engine there. It would be nice if
'Photo Landing' were replaced with 'Engine Start' in this case - would
have avoid a lot of electron abuse ;-).

TA

On Jun 9, 7:37*am, Frank wrote:
On Jun 9, 5:40*am, "Peter Wyld" wrote:





"Frank" wrote in message

....

I flew a TAT today at the Cordele, Ga USA contest, and as I always do
I opened my flight in SeeYou 3.95 for analysis. *Except this time it
showed a 'photo landing' between the 2nd and 3rd turn areas, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. *I have been using SeeYou for at
least 8 years, and am pretty familiar with the common sorts of task
declaration errors that can lead to this situation. *However, this
time I can't get rid of it for the life of me.

I attempted to post this on the Naviter support forum, but that seems
to be screwed up too. *I can't get an activation email, and since I
can't get an activation email, I can't complete the forum registration
and therefore can't post. *I also looked at their forum postings about
'photo landings' and it seems that the SeeYou folks aren't really
interested in addressing this issue (assuming it *is* an issue and not
just something I'm doing wrong).

Anyone else had this *problem with SeeYou 3.95?

Frank (TA)

Without a copy of the igc file I can't be sure, but if it was an AAT (which
it looks like from the task description), I would guess that the photo
landing is when the time ran out (i.e. 2h30 from the start).

Posting to OLC was the right thing to do. As soon as I saw the trace,
I noticed that the ENL levels were spiking way up, even though I have
a pure glider. *There happened to be a big spike at 2:06 that
coincided with a low point, and I guess the algorithm in SeeYou
decided that I had started the engine there. *It would be nice if
'Photo Landing' were replaced with 'Engine Start' in this case - would
have avoid a lot of electron abuse ;-).

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This problem (Photo Landing) is caused by a noise spike (opening the
air vent?) causing SeeYou to think you started your motor . Go to the
Flight Attributes (or whatever it's called) and check the "Glider
Only" box.

Kirk

On Jun 9, 5:46*am, "kirk.stant" wrote:
On Jun 9, 7:37*am, Frank wrote:



On Jun 9, 5:40*am, "Peter Wyld" wrote:

"Frank" wrote in message

....

I flew a TAT today at the Cordele, Ga USA contest, and as I always do
I opened my flight in SeeYou 3.95 for analysis. *Except this time it
showed a 'photo landing' between the 2nd and 3rd turn areas, and there
seems to be no way to get rid of it. *I have been using SeeYou for at
least 8 years, and am pretty familiar with the common sorts of task
declaration errors that can lead to this situation. *However, this
time I can't get rid of it for the life of me.

I attempted to post this on the Naviter support forum, but that seems
to be screwed up too. *I can't get an activation email, and since I
can't get an activation email, I can't complete the forum registration
and therefore can't post. *I also looked at their forum postings about
'photo landings' and it seems that the SeeYou folks aren't really
interested in addressing this issue (assuming it *is* an issue and not
just something I'm doing wrong).

Anyone else had this *problem with SeeYou 3.95?

Frank (TA)

Without a copy of the igc file I can't be sure, but if it was an AAT (which
it looks like from the task description), I would guess that the photo
landing is when the time ran out (i.e. 2h30 from the start).

Posting to OLC was the right thing to do. As soon as I saw the trace,
I noticed that the ENL levels were spiking way up, even though I have
a pure glider. *There happened to be a big spike at 2:06 that
coincided with a low point, and I guess the algorithm in SeeYou
decided that I had started the engine there. *It would be nice if
'Photo Landing' were replaced with 'Engine Start' in this case - would
have avoid a lot of electron abuse ;-).

TA- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This problem (Photo Landing) is caused by a noise spike (opening the
air vent?) causing SeeYou to think you started your motor . *Go to the
Flight Attributes (or whatever it's called) and check the "Glider
Only" box.

Kirk

Yep - I had exactly the same problem when a gear door stuck open.
"Pure glider" didn't fix it either, as the noise was loud throughout
the flight, but this should work for an isolated noise spike. I was
able to modify mine by changing the start and end of soaring times.

Mike