Real Pilots

I wonder how often real pilots open this list server, hoping that it
might once again be on topic? It's not worth checking more often than
weekly, and that interval is growing longer.

Well played, spammers.

"a" wrote in message
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Well played, spammers.

If you are tired of spam, then dump Google groups. That done, set up a real
newsreader program using a free NNTP server such as eternal-september.org.
Suddenly, the spam will disappear! Mind you, what's left is a small ghost of
what this group was 5 years ago, but there's no reason to put up with spam. If
you have a windoze box, you probably already have Outlet Express. Though far
from the best, it's a prefectly usable news program.

Why can a little organization like Eternal-September figure out how to filter
spam when huge giga-buck Google can't manage? I would love to know the answer!

Vaughn

a writes:

I wonder how often real pilots open this list server, hoping that it
might once again be on topic? It's not worth checking more often than
weekly, and that interval is growing longer.

All of USENET is suffering from spammers, but also from the fact that fewer
and fewer people even understand what USENET is, and they certainly don't know
how to access it.

On Jan 14, 5:22*pm, "vaughn" wrote:
"a" wrote in message

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Well played, spammers.

If you are tired of spam, then dump Google groups. *That done, set up a real
newsreader program using a free NNTP server such as eternal-september.org..
Suddenly, the spam will disappear! *Mind you, what's left is a small ghost of
what this group was 5 years ago, but there's no reason to put up with spam. *If
you have a windoze box, you probably already have Outlet Express. *Though far
from the best, it's a prefectly usable news program.

Why can a little organization like Eternal-September figure out how to filter
spam when huge giga-buck Google can't manage? *I would love to know the answer!

Vaughn

The issue is there is negligible aviation content. Look over the past
months with the scam content removed and you'll find this site has
very little associated with rec aviation piloting.. Those with an
interest in general aviation are no longer contributing here. Too
bad, this was a good place to find people with enough common interests
to engage in conversations on other, in some cases private, venues.

On Jan 16, 5:30*am, a wrote:

The issue is there is negligible aviation content. Look over the past
months with the scam content removed and you'll find this site has
very little associated with rec aviation piloting.. Those with an
interest in general aviation are no longer contributing here. *Too
bad, this was a good place to find people with enough common interests
to engage in conversations on other, in some cases private, venues.

They'll come back when the spammers move on

"george" wrote

They'll come back when the spammers move on

Nope. When volume starts to build, MX will come back, and people will
start responding, and then other cross posted crap will appear, and people
will respond to them, and then people will get frustrated and blast the
posts and the replies, and then everyone will go away again. Sound
familiar? It should.

History. It repeats.

Until everyone that is a serious poster quits answering OT and obnoxious
posters and posts, it will continue being dead. It seems as though many
have the need to stroke their own egos by responding to everyone, thus
proving their superior intelligence.
--
Jim in NC

"george" wrote in message
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They'll come back when the spammers move on

I wish that were true. Spam aside, rec.aviation.piloting is part of the Usenet.
(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet) The Usenet actually predates the web
browser by several years and can be thought of as the "original" Internet.
For many reasons, the Usenet has been in decline for several years now. I can
see this decline in almost every group I follow. Unfortunately, the Usenet is
on its way out. Spammers and trolls are undeniably a problem, but they are not
the main reason for the decline of this forum.

Vaughn.

On Jan 17, 12:43*pm, "vaughn" wrote:
"george" wrote in message

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They'll come back when the spammers move on

I wish that were true. *Spam aside, rec.aviation.piloting is part of the Usenet.
(seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet) The Usenet actually predates the web
browser *by several years and can be thought of as the "original" Internet.
For many reasons, the Usenet has been in decline for several years now. *I can
see this decline in almost every group I follow. *Unfortunately, the Usenet is
on its way out. *Spammers and trolls are undeniably a problem, but they are not
the main reason for the decline of this forum.

They weren't problems back in the FidoNet days.
Back then the SYSOPs vetted their subscribers messaging..
However I feel that Usernet is still going to be around if only to
give voice to those who are somewhat lacking in social skills.
And to those who try to correct their view of the world... /wry smile

george writes:

They weren't problems back in the FidoNet days.
Back then the SYSOPs vetted their subscribers messaging..

Back then there was hardly anyone in cyberspace to begin with, and the average
IQ of those who were here was considerably higher.

However I feel that Usernet is still going to be around if only to
give voice to those who are somewhat lacking in social skills.

The binary groups are supposedly alive and well and make up most of the
traffic.

I pop in here about once a month, and am dismayed to see what has
happened to this once-beloved group. It just continues to spin and
devolve.

However, I can say that about almost every aspect of general aviation
nowadays, so IMHO rec.aviation is simply reflecting what's happening
throughout the aviation world.

a) Fewer pilots = fewer A&Ps, fewer FBOs, fewer airports, fewer rental
planes, and fewer rec.aviation users.

add this to...

b) A general decline in civility throughout society

....and you've got...this. It's sad, but everywhere.

WRT to Usenet itself, the migration to web-based groups (Pilots of
America; AOPA's board, etc.) proved less than satisfactory, thanks to
well-meaning but overbearing, over-aggressive moderators who have the
habit of shutting down a conversation right when it's about to get
interesting. The end result is a plain-vanilla, cordial-yet-boring re-
hashing of the same ten topics, over and over. After the first few
months, it became a good cure for insomnia.

So....GA is splintered into smaller and smaller groups, and those few
of us who are left have fewer ways to voice our thoughts and
opinions. Our grandkids will one day marvel at the fact that "grandpa
and grandma used to fly their own plane!" I am sorry to see this
happen, beyond words.
--
Jay Honeck
Port Aransas, TX
Pathfinder N56993



On Jan 16, 5:29*pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"george" wrote

They'll come back when the spammers move on

*Nope. *When volume starts to build, MX will come back, and people will
start responding, and then other cross posted crap will appear, and people
will respond to them, and then people will get frustrated and blast the
posts and the replies, and then everyone will go away again. *Sound
familiar? *It should.

History. *It repeats.

Until everyone that is a serious poster quits answering OT and obnoxious
posters and posts, it will continue being dead. *It seems as though many
have the need to stroke their own egos by responding to everyone, thus
proving their superior intelligence.
--
Jim in NC