Fuel Truck

I would like to buy a fuel truck! 5,000 to 10,000 gallon preferred. I have
been watching ebay and rbauction.com and I was wondering if anyone knew of
other sources? How can I find out if the government is selling one?
Thanks!

Mike
MU-2

You've been checking Trade-A-Plane, right?

Mike Rapoport wrote:
I would like to buy a fuel truck! 5,000 to 10,000 gallon preferred. I have
been watching ebay and rbauction.com and I was wondering if anyone knew of
other sources? How can I find out if the government is selling one?
Thanks!

Mike
MU-2

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First start talking to the wholesale fuel distributors in the area, they get
around and will know if there is a retailer such as a home heating oil
distributor or a farm fuel supplier that currently has one for sale. Ask
them where they have maintenance done on their trucks, talk to those people
also. There are plenty of companies that specialize in putting together the
truck, tank, and pump units. These people always have used trucks for sale.
Large farms or vegetable processing companies are always
buying/selling/leasing fuel trucks. Check out the Commercial Drivers
License laws concerning carrying fuel, they may limit the size of truck that
you want to buy. Also remember to think of the weight laws, 10,000 gallons
would be a semi trailer and may be overweight. We usually are limited to
loads of about 8000 gal for diesel fuel, otherwise the truck is overloaded.
You've already checked Ritchie Bros, a great source for auctions with heavy
equipment, that's a good line of thinking. Check with the heavy equipment
dealers in your area. You can also buy a used truck and have a custom made
tank fabricated. If you can find a truck from a southern area it would be
best, less rust due to road salt. We just bought 3 used trucks to haul
potatoes that were once garbage trucks, they came out of Arkansas and look
great. We found them on the web, figure out the specs you want and keep
searching. Stay away from anything with a Cat V-8 diesel or a GM 2-cycle
diesel. High rpms aren't good for diesel engines unless they are in
airplanes.
--
Jim Burns III

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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
nk.net...
I would like to buy a fuel truck! 5,000 to 10,000 gallon preferred. I
have
been watching ebay and rbauction.com and I was wondering if anyone knew of
other sources? How can I find out if the government is selling one?
Thanks!

Mike
MU-2

Yes but I am really more interested in being able to follow auctions to get
a feel for valuation. Once I have a feel for the market, I will look at
all sources.

Mike
MU-2


"Dave Butler" wrote in message
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You've been checking Trade-A-Plane, right?

Mike Rapoport wrote:
I would like to buy a fuel truck! 5,000 to 10,000 gallon preferred. I
have
been watching ebay and rbauction.com and I was wondering if anyone knew
of
other sources? How can I find out if the government is selling one?
Thanks!

Mike
MU-2

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I'd agree with the previous posters, and check with the local fuel
wholesalers.. They should definately know someone out there who might be
itching to sell a truck.. They could also give good information on what
'other' aspects you'll need to cover such as needing a CDL, Hazmat permits,
and other red tape.

Will this be to buy your own bulk fuel for the MU-2? Any idea where you
will store the truck, and if there are insurance / legal concerns with it?

Hopefully it'll all work out for you. So far, looks like buying the truck
will be the easiest part!

--
Ben
C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y

Thanks for all the good advice! I plan to take fuel delivery at the airport
and never operate the truck on public roads. I only want the large truck so
that I can buy enough fuel at a time to get favorable delivery charges.
Would the Cat diesel or GM2 stroke be a problem if we are not going to drive
on the road? We will have a couple of guys in on the truck as partners and
our hangers are less than 1/3 mile apart.

The big truck is one option but we would also consider a 2000 gallon truck
that we would lease to the FBO. We would take fuel at cost in lieu of a
lease payment. If we do that option, we would need a better truck as it
would get more driving use.

Mike
MU-2


"Jim" wrote in message
...
First start talking to the wholesale fuel distributors in the area, they
get
around and will know if there is a retailer such as a home heating oil
distributor or a farm fuel supplier that currently has one for sale. Ask
them where they have maintenance done on their trucks, talk to those
people
also. There are plenty of companies that specialize in putting together
the
truck, tank, and pump units. These people always have used trucks for
sale.
Large farms or vegetable processing companies are always
buying/selling/leasing fuel trucks. Check out the Commercial Drivers
License laws concerning carrying fuel, they may limit the size of truck
that
you want to buy. Also remember to think of the weight laws, 10,000
gallons
would be a semi trailer and may be overweight. We usually are limited to
loads of about 8000 gal for diesel fuel, otherwise the truck is
overloaded.
You've already checked Ritchie Bros, a great source for auctions with
heavy
equipment, that's a good line of thinking. Check with the heavy equipment
dealers in your area. You can also buy a used truck and have a custom
made
tank fabricated. If you can find a truck from a southern area it would be
best, less rust due to road salt. We just bought 3 used trucks to haul
potatoes that were once garbage trucks, they came out of Arkansas and look
great. We found them on the web, figure out the specs you want and keep
searching. Stay away from anything with a Cat V-8 diesel or a GM 2-cycle
diesel. High rpms aren't good for diesel engines unless they are in
airplanes.
--
Jim Burns III

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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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I would like to buy a fuel truck! 5,000 to 10,000 gallon preferred. I
have
been watching ebay and rbauction.com and I was wondering if anyone knew
of
other sources? How can I find out if the government is selling one?
Thanks!

Mike
MU-2

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message nk.net...
I would like to buy a fuel truck! 5,000 to 10,000 gallon preferred. I have
been watching ebay and rbauction.com and I was wondering if anyone knew of
other sources? How can I find out if the government is selling one?
Thanks!

Always some in Trade-A-Plane each month.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:57:37 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote:

I would like to buy a fuel truck! 5,000 to 10,000 gallon preferred. I have
been watching ebay and rbauction.com and I was wondering if anyone knew of
other sources? How can I find out if the government is selling one?
Thanks!

For fueling the MU2? That's a creative way to save some bucks.

Morris airport in Illinois just added huge self-serve tanks to the
field. Not sure if they are keeping their trucks, but it might be
worth a phone call as they appear to be relatively new and in good
condition). Morris airport is at: 815-942-1600

You can see a picture of the trucks in the background of this photo:
http://www.needlescentered.com/needl...is_800x600.jpg

Hell, I'd drive the thing out to Utah or Idaho, or wherever you live,
if you fly me back to Chicago in the MU2.

-Nathan

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Mike Rapoport wrote:
I would like to buy a fuel truck! 5,000 to 10,000 gallon preferred.

You're just fueling one plane, right? Why not a stationary tank? If
it can't be a permanent structure, you could just get a semi trailer
tank and park it. Hire a trucking company if you ever need to move it.

--
Ben Jackson

http://www.ben.com/

"Ben Smith" wrote in message
...
I'd agree with the previous posters, and check with the local fuel
wholesalers.. They should definately know someone out there who might be
itching to sell a truck.. They could also give good information on what
'other' aspects you'll need to cover such as needing a CDL, Hazmat
permits,
and other red tape.

Thanks! I don't plan to drive on public roads.


Will this be to buy your own bulk fuel for the MU-2? Any idea where you
will store the truck, and if there are insurance / legal concerns with it?


The truck would be stored outside on a hanger apron.

There is no fuel truck at SZT anymore, only self serve, and there are
several hangers, including mine, diagonally across the airport from the
pumps. It is a PITA and expensive to taxi over to the pumps particularly
for an early AM departure. If it is snowing the airplane may need to be
deiced after refueling. Also I prefer to have the plane fueled the night
before departure and I don't want to taxi back from the fuel pumps turn the
plane around and push it back into the hanger.

With the increased 179 deduction we can expense the truck the first year and
the fuel cost savings should more than pay for the balance

and if there are insurance / legal concerns with it?

This is something we will have to factor in but if the truck is not used on
public roads I don't think that it will be a major hurdle.
Mike
MU-2


Hopefully it'll all work out for you. So far, looks like buying the
truck
will be the easiest part!

--
Ben
C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y