Aztec Flap Tube AD and related Service Bulletin

Can anyone point me to a link for Piper Service Bulletin 1051B? It is
what the Aztec falp tube AD refers to for compliance (2003-09-18?). I
have not been able to find it on-line. I'm trying to help someone
figure out the best way to comply, but if I can't read it I can't
understand what is required. Unfortunately, they did not keep the
copy that was mailed to them.

TIA.
z

I've found it almost impossible to find Piper's SB's online.

When we bought our Aztec, the AD had been complied with by replacing the
torque tube. I'll look through our logs in the next day or two to see if
there is a copy of the SB.

If I recall correctly, the AD calls for inspections every 500(?) hours to
check for cracks in the ends of the tubes. I also believe it calls for
replacing the wooden plugs in the ends of the tubes with plastic plugs. It
requires removing the tube from the aircraft no matter if you inspect it or
replace it, however, if you go the replacement route, you can save
time/labor on the removal process with help from a sawzall. I've had quotes
of around $2000 including labor to replace the tube.

There is another local Aztec owner who is also an A&P / AI, I'm sure he'll
have a copy of the SB, it's just tough getting in touch with him.

Jim

"zatatime" wrote in message
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Can anyone point me to a link for Piper Service Bulletin 1051B? It is
what the Aztec falp tube AD refers to for compliance (2003-09-18?). I
have not been able to find it on-line. I'm trying to help someone
figure out the best way to comply, but if I can't read it I can't
understand what is required. Unfortunately, they did not keep the
copy that was mailed to them.

TIA.
z


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Here's a link to a similar question.

Jim

"zatatime" wrote in message
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Can anyone point me to a link for Piper Service Bulletin 1051B? It is
what the Aztec falp tube AD refers to for compliance (2003-09-18?). I
have not been able to find it on-line. I'm trying to help someone
figure out the best way to comply, but if I can't read it I can't
understand what is required. Unfortunately, they did not keep the
copy that was mailed to them.

TIA.
z


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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:15:31 -0500, "Jim Burns"
wrote:

I've found it almost impossible to find Piper's SB's online.

At least it isn't me....Not sure why they don't just put them on the
website like I've seen others do.

When we bought our Aztec, the AD had been complied with by replacing the
torque tube. I'll look through our logs in the next day or two to see if
there is a copy of the SB.

Thanks, but don't go through too much trouble. You pretty much
answered the initial question I had below.

If I recall correctly, the AD calls for inspections every 500(?) hours to
check for cracks in the ends of the tubes. I also believe it calls for
replacing the wooden plugs in the ends of the tubes with plastic plugs.
You are correct. I found this in the AD.

It
requires removing the tube from the aircraft no matter if you inspect it or
replace it, however, if you go the replacement route, you can save
time/labor on the removal process with help from a sawzall.
This is the info I was looking for. I didn't know if you could do the
inspection with the tube in the airplane.

Since you need to pull the tube for inspection it almost makes sense
to just replace it. You'll save some on labor, and never have to do
it again (in theory).

I've had quotes
of around $2000 including labor to replace the tube.

Ouch! The AD says $480.00 for labor and $572 for parts. I know those
numbers are bogus, but I didn't know they were at a 50% discount!

There is another local Aztec owner who is also an A&P / AI, I'm sure he'll
have a copy of the SB, it's just tough getting in touch with him.

Jim

Thank you very much for the reply. You got me started in the right
direction. If you do find the SB great; if not I'll keep digging.

Thanks again for the help.

z

zatatime" wrote in message
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Can anyone point me to a link for Piper Service Bulletin 1051B? It is
what the Aztec falp tube AD refers to for compliance (2003-09-18?). I
have not been able to find it on-line. I'm trying to help someone
figure out the best way to comply, but if I can't read it I can't
understand what is required. Unfortunately, they did not keep the
copy that was mailed to them.

TIA.
z

In the process of going through this on my Aztec as well, they were going to
pull the torque tube yesterday and do the inspection. Depending on what the
replacement torque tube cost, I figured I'd just have them put in the
replacement, which only needs to be checked every 2500 hours, not every 500
with the currently installed one. I'm also told that they replace the wood
caps with plastic since the wood could absorb water and cause corrosion. I
see the various costs quoted in earlier replies, I'll post what my mechanic
tells me, they're almost done with the annual and I should have a squawk
list to go over with them this coming Monday or Tuesday. SO far things are
looking pretty fair, some leaks that need new seals, etc. They did see that
the brakes were rubbing the inside of the tires pretty bad, so I'm not sure
if the previous owner had the wrong tires on or if I'm missing a shim
somewhere. Engine compressions were all in the 70s which was good to hear as
well. I'll post a report on my annual if anyone is interested. This is the
first one for the Aztec since I bought it.

--
Louis L. Perley III
N46000 - C152
N370 - PA-23-250

Found the SB but ours is SB 1051A dated Oct 9 2001, not 1051B It is
instructions for replacement of the torque tube.

Jim

"zatatime" wrote in message
...
Can anyone point me to a link for Piper Service Bulletin 1051B? It is
what the Aztec falp tube AD refers to for compliance (2003-09-18?). I
have not been able to find it on-line. I'm trying to help someone
figure out the best way to comply, but if I can't read it I can't
understand what is required. Unfortunately, they did not keep the
copy that was mailed to them.

TIA.
z


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Tires should be 700 x 6 8 plys for the mains and 600 x 6 6 plys for the
nose.... guess how I know?.... The previous owner had the wrong tires on
ours too! 6 ply mains instead of 8 plys and retreads are tough to find.
Jim

"Louis L. Perley III" wrote in message
...
zatatime" wrote in message
...
Can anyone point me to a link for Piper Service Bulletin 1051B? It is
what the Aztec falp tube AD refers to for compliance (2003-09-18?). I
have not been able to find it on-line. I'm trying to help someone
figure out the best way to comply, but if I can't read it I can't
understand what is required. Unfortunately, they did not keep the
copy that was mailed to them.

TIA.
z

In the process of going through this on my Aztec as well, they were going
to
pull the torque tube yesterday and do the inspection. Depending on what
the
replacement torque tube cost, I figured I'd just have them put in the
replacement, which only needs to be checked every 2500 hours, not every
500
with the currently installed one. I'm also told that they replace the wood
caps with plastic since the wood could absorb water and cause corrosion. I
see the various costs quoted in earlier replies, I'll post what my
mechanic
tells me, they're almost done with the annual and I should have a squawk
list to go over with them this coming Monday or Tuesday. SO far things are
looking pretty fair, some leaks that need new seals, etc. They did see
that
the brakes were rubbing the inside of the tires pretty bad, so I'm not
sure
if the previous owner had the wrong tires on or if I'm missing a shim
somewhere. Engine compressions were all in the 70s which was good to hear
as
well. I'll post a report on my annual if anyone is interested. This is the
first one for the Aztec since I bought it.

--
Louis L. Perley III
N46000 - C152
N370 - PA-23-250




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zatatime wrote:
Can anyone point me to a link for Piper Service Bulletin 1051B? It is
what the Aztec falp tube AD refers to for compliance (2003-09-18?). I
have not been able to find it on-line. I'm trying to help someone
figure out the best way to comply, but if I can't read it I can't
understand what is required. Unfortunately, they did not keep the
copy that was mailed to them.

TIA.
z


I have posted the text of S.B. 1051B he

http://homepage.mac.com/scottdb/FileSharing7.html

Happy Flying!
Scott Skylane
N92054

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:02:40 -0600, "Louis L. Perley III"
wrote:

I'll post a report on my annual if anyone is interested. This is the
first one for the Aztec since I bought it.


Thanks for the info. A re-cap post would be great. I don't have much
experience with Aztec's but will definately be getting my feet wet
over the next couple weeks.

z

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:53:55 -0800, Scott Skylane
wrote:

zatatime wrote:
Can anyone point me to a link for Piper Service Bulletin 1051B? It is
what the Aztec falp tube AD refers to for compliance (2003-09-18?). I
have not been able to find it on-line. I'm trying to help someone
figure out the best way to comply, but if I can't read it I can't
understand what is required. Unfortunately, they did not keep the
copy that was mailed to them.

TIA.
z


I have posted the text of S.B. 1051B he

http://homepage.mac.com/scottdb/FileSharing7.html

Happy Flying!
Scott Skylane
N92054


Thank you Mr. Skylane! Printing it now and will read it later
tonight. Hopefully the illustrations aren't too important.

Appreciate the time to put this up!

z