Question for the group in Hawker

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

That said, for my nickel a disproportionate number of
British A/C designs are ugggg-leeee. Yes, yes, the
U.S. has had their share of ugly ducklings. But the
Brits are far and away the leader of the pack.

The one exception to this is the Hawker livery. The
postings of Joseph T and many of the others in here
have led me to believe that Hawker has apparently
never hatched an ugly bird. Even the bi-planes look
like works of art (to me).

So, I was wondering if any or all of you would be
willing to post any or all of your Hawker pics?

I'm trying to see if there is a Hawker that gives
me pause in my opinion.

Anyone know of a Hawker with a gag-factor?

On 22/02/2014 04:26, Jess Lurkin. wrote:
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

That said, for my nickel a disproportionate number of
British A/C designs are ugggg-leeee. Yes, yes, the
U.S. has had their share of ugly ducklings. But the
Brits are far and away the leader of the pack.

I think you're doing the French a great disservice. The UK has indeed
produced aircraft that are less than elegant, sometimes as a result of
the specifications, but IMO the prizes for individual ugliness has to go
to the land of Blériot. The Farman Jabiru and the Amiot 140 series
spring to mind.

The one exception to this is the Hawker livery. The
postings of Joseph T and many of the others in here
have led me to believe that Hawker has apparently
never hatched an ugly bird. Even the bi-planes look
like works of art (to me).

So, I was wondering if any or all of you would be
willing to post any or all of your Hawker pics?

I'm trying to see if there is a Hawker that gives
me pause in my opinion.

Anyone know of a Hawker with a gag-factor?


The Horsley was not up to the standards of the Hart/Fury family in the
looks department, certainly not the radial-engined versions. Gag factor?
Not really sure. More research needed, but I don't have much time today.

--
Peter

On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:08:56 +0000, Ramsman
wrote:

On 22/02/2014 04:26, Jess Lurkin. wrote:
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

That said, for my nickel a disproportionate number of
British A/C designs are ugggg-leeee. Yes, yes, the
U.S. has had their share of ugly ducklings. But the
Brits are far and away the leader of the pack.

I think you're doing the French a great disservice. The UK has indeed
produced aircraft that are less than elegant, sometimes as a result of
the specifications, but IMO the prizes for individual ugliness has to go
to the land of Blériot. The Farman Jabiru and the Amiot 140 series
spring to mind.

Or the Couzinet 70 'Arc-en-Ciel'...

http://s636.photobucket.com/user/Lig...photo.jpg.html

The one exception to this is the Hawker livery. The
postings of Joseph T and many of the others in here
have led me to believe that Hawker has apparently
never hatched an ugly bird. Even the bi-planes look
like works of art (to me).

So, I was wondering if any or all of you would be
willing to post any or all of your Hawker pics?

I'm trying to see if there is a Hawker that gives
me pause in my opinion.

Anyone know of a Hawker with a gag-factor?


The Horsley was not up to the standards of the Hart/Fury family in the
looks department, certainly not the radial-engined versions. Gag factor?
Not really sure. More research needed, but I don't have much time today.

The Hurricane wasn't exactly beautiful, but made up for it in sheer
chutzpah.

But yeah - the Hart/Fury bipes and the immortal Hunter are definitely
beauties you'd be proud to take home to meet the folks.

In article ,
"Jess Lurkin." wrote:

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

That said, for my nickel a disproportionate number of
British A/C designs are ugggg-leeee. Yes, yes, the
U.S. has had their share of ugly ducklings. But the
Brits are far and away the leader of the pack.

The one exception to this is the Hawker livery. The
postings of Joseph T and many of the others in here
have led me to believe that Hawker has apparently
never hatched an ugly bird. Even the bi-planes look
like works of art (to me).

So, I was wondering if any or all of you would be
willing to post any or all of your Hawker pics?

I'm trying to see if there is a Hawker that gives
me pause in my opinion.

Anyone know of a Hawker with a gag-factor?

Most of the DeHavilland line were sheer beauties, starting with the Dh
88 Comet and later the Albatross.

Yes -- many of the 1920s-30s British (and French) bombers looked as if
they were designed with an ugly stick, but there were some beauties
later.

On 22 Feb 2014 04:26:12 GMT, "Jess Lurkin." wrote:


"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

That said, for my nickel a disproportionate number of
British A/C designs are ugggg-leeee. Yes, yes, the
U.S. has had their share of ugly ducklings. But the
Brits are far and away the leader of the pack.

The one exception to this is the Hawker livery. The
postings of Joseph T and many of the others in here
have led me to believe that Hawker has apparently
never hatched an ugly bird. Even the bi-planes look
like works of art (to me).

So, I was wondering if any or all of you would be
willing to post any or all of your Hawker pics?

I'm trying to see if there is a Hawker that gives
me pause in my opinion.

Anyone know of a Hawker with a gag-factor?

The Supermarine Spitfire and the de Haviland Mosquito were amongst the most
beautiful airplanes ever produced, IMHO. As an American, I would rank the above
aircraft right up there with the P-51D Mustang, the B-29, the B-47, P-38, F-86,
707 and SR-71

On 23/02/2014 19:22, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
On 22 Feb 2014 04:26:12 GMT, "Jess Lurkin." wrote:


"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

That said, for my nickel a disproportionate number of
British A/C designs are ugggg-leeee. Yes, yes, the
U.S. has had their share of ugly ducklings. But the
Brits are far and away the leader of the pack.

The one exception to this is the Hawker livery. The
postings of Joseph T and many of the others in here
have led me to believe that Hawker has apparently
never hatched an ugly bird. Even the bi-planes look
like works of art (to me).

So, I was wondering if any or all of you would be
willing to post any or all of your Hawker pics?

I'm trying to see if there is a Hawker that gives
me pause in my opinion.

Anyone know of a Hawker with a gag-factor?

The Supermarine Spitfire and the de Haviland Mosquito were amongst the most
beautiful airplanes ever produced, IMHO. As an American, I would rank the above
aircraft right up there with the P-51D Mustang, the B-29, the B-47, P-38, F-86,
707 and SR-71


....and even the P-51D Mustang only achieved immortal fame because of its
British engine - the same engine that powered the Spitfire and the Mosquito!

--
Moving Things In Still Pictures

®i©ardo wrote in
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On 23/02/2014 19:22, Charles Lindbergh wrote:

The Supermarine Spitfire and the de Haviland Mosquito were amongst the
most beautiful airplanes ever produced, IMHO. As an American, I would
rank the above aircraft right up there with the P-51D Mustang, the
B-29, the B-47, P-38, F-86, 707 and SR-71

...and even the P-51D Mustang only achieved immortal fame because of
its British engine - the same engine that powered the Spitfire and the
Mosquito!

Degustibus non disputandem. The Mustang, Mosquito and Spitfire were all
examples of form following function and, thereby, beauties.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 20:29:29 -0600, Andrew Chaplin
wrote:

®i©ardo wrote in
:

On 23/02/2014 19:22, Charles Lindbergh wrote:

The Supermarine Spitfire and the de Haviland Mosquito were amongst the
most beautiful airplanes ever produced, IMHO. As an American, I would
rank the above aircraft right up there with the P-51D Mustang, the
B-29, the B-47, P-38, F-86, 707 and SR-71

...and even the P-51D Mustang only achieved immortal fame because of
its British engine - the same engine that powered the Spitfire and the
Mosquito!

Degustibus non disputandem.

Aside from posting it in Latin, just why do you feel there is no disputing of
taste? I would disagree, there is much "taste" I take issue with. Most of it
involves publicly funded art.

The Mustang, Mosquito and Spitfire were all
examples of form following function and, thereby, beauties.

Regardless of form following function, they all would have been beautiful
aircraft even if they had not been excellent aircraft.

On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:41:32 +0000, ®i©ardo wrote:

On 23/02/2014 19:22, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
On 22 Feb 2014 04:26:12 GMT, "Jess Lurkin." wrote:


"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

That said, for my nickel a disproportionate number of
British A/C designs are ugggg-leeee. Yes, yes, the
U.S. has had their share of ugly ducklings. But the
Brits are far and away the leader of the pack.

The one exception to this is the Hawker livery. The
postings of Joseph T and many of the others in here
have led me to believe that Hawker has apparently
never hatched an ugly bird. Even the bi-planes look
like works of art (to me).

So, I was wondering if any or all of you would be
willing to post any or all of your Hawker pics?

I'm trying to see if there is a Hawker that gives
me pause in my opinion.

Anyone know of a Hawker with a gag-factor?

The Supermarine Spitfire and the de Haviland Mosquito were amongst the most
beautiful airplanes ever produced, IMHO. As an American, I would rank the above
aircraft right up there with the P-51D Mustang, the B-29, the B-47, P-38, F-86,
707 and SR-71


...and even the P-51D Mustang only achieved immortal fame because of its
British engine - the same engine that powered the Spitfire and the Mosquito!

The Merlin was an outstanding engine, but it did not contribute to the visual
aesthetic appeal of the Mustang. In my opinion, it was the tear-drop canopy in
the D version which turned it into aviation eye candy.

Remember, the Lancaster had four Merlin engines and it was no beauty.

On 24/02/2014 11:41, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:41:32 +0000, ®i©ardo wrote:

On 23/02/2014 19:22, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
On 22 Feb 2014 04:26:12 GMT, "Jess Lurkin." wrote:


"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

That said, for my nickel a disproportionate number of
British A/C designs are ugggg-leeee. Yes, yes, the
U.S. has had their share of ugly ducklings. But the
Brits are far and away the leader of the pack.

The one exception to this is the Hawker livery. The
postings of Joseph T and many of the others in here
have led me to believe that Hawker has apparently
never hatched an ugly bird. Even the bi-planes look
like works of art (to me).

So, I was wondering if any or all of you would be
willing to post any or all of your Hawker pics?

I'm trying to see if there is a Hawker that gives
me pause in my opinion.

Anyone know of a Hawker with a gag-factor?

The Supermarine Spitfire and the de Haviland Mosquito were amongst the most
beautiful airplanes ever produced, IMHO. As an American, I would rank the above
aircraft right up there with the P-51D Mustang, the B-29, the B-47, P-38, F-86,
707 and SR-71


...and even the P-51D Mustang only achieved immortal fame because of its
British engine - the same engine that powered the Spitfire and the Mosquito!

The Merlin was an outstanding engine, but it did not contribute to the visual
aesthetic appeal of the Mustang. In my opinion, it was the tear-drop canopy in
the D version which turned it into aviation eye candy.


....where as the P51 Mustang 1...

Remember, the Lancaster had four Merlin engines and it was no beauty.


But it had a certain purposeful grace - and it did an excellent job!

--
Moving Things In Still Pictures