|
| If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|||||||
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
August 6th 12, 01:39 AM
posted to rec.aviation.soaring
|
|||
|
|||
ASH-30?
Anyone know whats up with the ASH-30? Surprised not to see one at
Uvalde... Thanks, 2C 
|
|
#2
August 6th 12, 01:43 AM
posted to rec.aviation.soaring
|
|||
|
|||
|
ASH-30?
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 8:39:29 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote:
Anyone know whats up with the ASH-30? Surprised not to see one at Uvalde... Don't bring a knife to a gun fight....
|
|
#3
August 6th 12, 02:22 AM
posted to rec.aviation.soaring
|
|||
|
|||
|
ASH-30?
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 8:39:29 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote: Anyone know whats up with the ASH-30? Surprised not to see one at Uvalde... Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.... Jeez Ol' sparky is getting pretty stroppy. But I bet SH and Jonkers will be walking away from the open class contest with lots more orders from just being there. Darryl
|
|
#4
August 6th 12, 10:57 AM
posted to rec.aviation.soaring
|
|||
|
|||
|
ASH-30?
Yep - but it looks like they have brought a Desert Eagle to this gun
fight. GG At 01:22 06 August 2012, Darryl Ramm wrote: On Sunday, August 5, 2012 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Dave Nadler wrote: On Sunday, August 5, 2012 8:39:29 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote: Anyone know whats up with the ASH-30? Surprised not to see one at Uvalde... Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.... Jeez Ol' sparky is getting pretty stroppy. But I bet SH and Jonkers will be walking away from the open class contest with lots more orders from just being there. Darryl
|
|
#5
August 6th 12, 11:56 AM
posted to rec.aviation.soaring
|
|||
|
|||
|
ASH-30?
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 8:43:37 PM UTC-4, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 8:39:29 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote: Anyone know whats up with the ASH-30? Surprised not to see one at Uvalde... Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.... Further info he http://soaringcafe.com/2011/04/report-from-friedrichshafen-new-open-class-gliders/
|
|
#6
August 16th 12, 04:05 PM
posted to rec.aviation.soaring
|
|||
|
|||
|
ASH-30?
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 6:22:15 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 5:43:37 PM UTC-7, Dave Nadler wrote: On Sunday, August 5, 2012 8:39:29 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote: Anyone know whats up with the ASH-30? Surprised not to see one at Uvalde... Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.... Jeez Ol' sparky is getting pretty stroppy. But I bet SH and Jonkers will be walking away from the open class contest with lots more orders from just being there. Darryl Looks like Jonkers is doing a whole lot more than just "being there" Pretty impressive. Craig
|
|
#7
August 16th 12, 06:36 PM
posted to rec.aviation.soaring
|
|||
|
|||
|
ASH-30?
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 8:39:29 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote:
Anyone know whats up with the ASH-30? Surprised not to see one at Uvalde... Thanks, 2C View Soaring Cafe's interview with Michael Greiner. He states Martin Heide has been "tweaking" and "pimping" the ASH-30 to "improve the details". I'm also surprised AS's brochure states a 41kw (55 hp) Wankle when the EB-28 & 29 and the Quintus M & Arcus M are using a 50 kw (hp) powerplant. BTW, the 21 meter ASH-31 Mi is also not flying in the WGC. Perhaps still a work in progress...hope the ASH-30 Mi will come on strong.
|
|
#8
August 16th 12, 06:45 PM
posted to rec.aviation.soaring
|
|||
|
|||
|
ASH-30?
On Aug 5, 6:39*pm, Kevin Christner wrote:
Anyone know whats up with the ASH-30? *Surprised not to see one at Uvalde... Thanks, 2C Also, it would have been nice to see a 304 Shark at the comp...
|
|
#9
August 16th 12, 08:17 PM
posted to rec.aviation.soaring
|
|||
|
|||
|
ASH-30?
On Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:36:31 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 8:39:29 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote: /snip/ I'm also surprised AS's brochure states a 41kw (55 hp) Wankle when the EB-28 & 29 and the Quintus M & Arcus M are using a 50 kw (hp) powerplant. Why are you surprised by that? Its the same fuel injected Austro Engin AE50R Wankel engine as has been powering the ASH-25Mi and now powers the 31Mi (and a non-injected version powers the 26E). I believe all the other gliders mentioned use a SOLO 2625-2. Its the same old motorglider debate of Wankel vs 2 Stroke. There are many tradeoffs in self launch motorgliders that make simple horsepower specs not that interesting by themselves, prop gearing and pitch, engine cooling, engine reliability, maintenance issues etc. All can get really important fast. Marketing climb and take-off distance numbers also don't give a good feel (especially if hot and high and facing engine (or battery) cooling issues). The two stroke engines also are not as great as the electrics or Wankel for running at partial power. Obviously the electric wins on noise, but loses on engine flight endurance. There are just lots and lots of things to consider. Darryl
|
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
Linear Mode
