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Now, that was cool!
Mythbusters pressurized an old DC-9 and fired a bullet through the wall to see if it would cause an explosive decompression. It didn't. Then they fired a bullet through the window to see if the window would shatter and cause an explosive decompression. The bullet only made a small hole in the window because the windows are made of shatter-proof plastic. No explosive decompression. Then Mythbusters put explosive all around the window to blow it out and deliberately cause an explosive decompression. The crash test dummy, "Buster," was damaged but was not sucked out the window. If he had been a real person he would have been injured but probably lived. His arm was badly damaged enough that a human arm might have been lost. So Mythbusters patched everything up and used a shaped charge to blow out the whole wall. The explosive decompression ripped the entire top off the fuselage and much of the wall out, but the seats and the crash test dummy remained in the airplane. I would guess that if the "Buster" had been a live human he would have been seriously injured and possibly killed. Mythbusters then talked about how strong these airplanes really are and closed with photos of the Hawaiian Airlines plane that suffered an explosive decompression similar to the one that the show created with a shaped charge. The only person killed was a flight attendant who was pulled from the plane by the airstream, but the passengers all survived. I thought the show was fascinating. It really demonstrated the engineering that goes into an airliner. Besides, I like watching things blow up. It must appeal to my inner 12 year old. -- Christopher J. Campbell World Famous Flight Instructor Port Orchard, WA If you go around beating the Bush, don't complain if you rile the animals. |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
... Mythbusters then talked about how strong these airplanes really are and closed with photos of the Hawaiian Airlines plane that suffered an explosive decompression similar to the one that the show created with a shaped charge. The only person killed was a flight attendant who was pulled from the plane by the airstream, but the passengers all survived. However, at one of the passengers soon after gave birth to a little girl who died a day later. There was no particular pathology. Milagro they called her. She was my sister-in-law's niece. I'm not blaming anyone - if anything I just wanted to honor her memory. -- David Brooks |
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Now, that was cool!
Agreed. The ten minutes I caught at the end were very well done, and should go a long way toward dispelling the myth. Now if only they had a more significant viewership... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Neonates do die, fortunately not with great frequency... As a working doc I
immediately wondered about Caisson Disease from the rapid decompression, when I read your posting... The fetus is normally well protected and buffered by the body of the mother for trauma like that... And, the total psi/bar drop in that form of decompression is minor compared to divers, et. al., however the rate of change of the decompression is far more instantaneous than for caisson workers and divers, so if it was Caisson Disease the rate of change had to be the key.. Denny "David Brooks" However, at one of the passengers soon after gave birth to a little girl who died a day later. There was no particular pathology. Milagro they called her. She was my sister-in-law's niece. |
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There is no problem so vexing as cannot be solved by application of
sufficient explosives... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Now, that was cool! |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ...
Now, that was cool! Mythbusters pressurized an old DC-9 and fired a bullet through the wall to see if it would cause an explosive decompression. It didn't. Then they fired a bullet through the window to see if the window would shatter and cause an explosive decompression. The bullet only made a small hole in the window because the windows are made of shatter-proof plastic. No explosive decompression. Then Mythbusters put explosive all around the window to blow it out and deliberately cause an explosive decompression. The crash test dummy, "Buster," was damaged but was not sucked out the window. If he had been a real person he would have been injured but probably lived. His arm was badly damaged enough that a human arm might have been lost. So Mythbusters patched everything up and used a shaped charge to blow out the whole wall. The explosive decompression ripped the entire top off the fuselage and much of the wall out, but the seats and the crash test dummy remained in the airplane. I would guess that if the "Buster" had been a live human he would have been seriously injured and possibly killed. Mythbusters then talked about how strong these airplanes really are and closed with photos of the Hawaiian Airlines plane that suffered an explosive decompression similar to the one that the show created with a shaped charge. The only person killed was a flight attendant who was pulled from the plane by the airstream, but the passengers all survived. I thought the show was fascinating. It really demonstrated the engineering that goes into an airliner. Besides, I like watching things blow up. It must appeal to my inner 12 year old. I also watched the show and one factor they did not take into account was the speed of an airliner at altitude. Also, what would happen to the forces on the damnaged airframe during the descent/emergancy landing? As in most tests, this was a controlled experiment. I'm sure if they placed the shaped charge closer to the wing root, more damnaged would occure. Still a good show, I especially like the part where they used a 22 bullet for a fuse replacement. |
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Shame I missed it, maybe I'll see it on the 394th rerun.
But anyway I DID see Goldfinger the other night so I know this is all wrong. If you shoot a bullet through the window of an airplane, first the whole window explodes. Then everything is sucked through the window, including people who are considerably larger than the window aperture (except James Bond of course). This continues indefinitely. Also the plane goes into an uncontrollable dive and ends up spiralling into the ground, despite the combined efforts of two people on the flight deck. I think I prefer the James Bond version. John ( :-), for the irony challenged) "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Now, that was cool! Mythbusters pressurized an old DC-9 and fired a bullet through the wall to see if it would cause an explosive decompression. It didn't. Then they fired a bullet through the window to see if the window would shatter and cause an explosive decompression. The bullet only made a small hole in the window because the windows are made of shatter-proof plastic. No explosive decompression. Then Mythbusters put explosive all around the window to blow it out and deliberately cause an explosive decompression. The crash test dummy, "Buster," was damaged but was not sucked out the window. If he had been a real person he would have been injured but probably lived. His arm was badly damaged enough that a human arm might have been lost. So Mythbusters patched everything up and used a shaped charge to blow out the whole wall. The explosive decompression ripped the entire top off the fuselage and much of the wall out, but the seats and the crash test dummy remained in the airplane. I would guess that if the "Buster" had been a live human he would have been seriously injured and possibly killed. Mythbusters then talked about how strong these airplanes really are and closed with photos of the Hawaiian Airlines plane that suffered an explosive decompression similar to the one that the show created with a shaped charge. The only person killed was a flight attendant who was pulled from the plane by the airstream, but the passengers all survived. I thought the show was fascinating. It really demonstrated the engineering that goes into an airliner. Besides, I like watching things blow up. It must appeal to my inner 12 year old. -- Christopher J. Campbell World Famous Flight Instructor Port Orchard, WA If you go around beating the Bush, don't complain if you rile the animals. |
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![]() "John Harper" wrote in message news:1073933174.414447@sj-nntpcache-5... | Shame I missed it, maybe I'll see it on the 394th rerun. | | But anyway I DID see Goldfinger the other night so I know | this is all wrong. If you shoot a bullet through the window of | an airplane, first the whole window explodes. Then everything | is sucked through the window, including people who are | considerably larger than the window aperture (except James | Bond of course). This continues indefinitely. Also the plane | goes into an uncontrollable dive and ends up spiralling into | the ground, despite the combined efforts of two people on | the flight deck. | | I think I prefer the James Bond version. | | John | | ( :-), for the irony challenged) Mythbusters seemed to prefer the "U.S. Marshals" version, complete with shackled prisoners and guards being sucked out the airplane. The James Bond "Die Another Day" version is just not as good as the "Goldfinger" scene. I think I know the origin of all of this -- it is none other than Dr. Wernher von Braun and Walt Disney. Disney made a film about the Dyna Soar space project ("Man and Space" -1957) that was narrated by Braun. That film shows a cartoon of the occupants being sucked out of the spacecraft after a meteor pierces a tiny hole in the structure. |
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The speed of the airplane at altitude has nothing to do with it. The
pressure differential between the cabin and the great outdoors is the only factor...airspeed does not exert any pressure on the sides of the fuselage. Bob Gardner "Mark" wrote in message om... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Now, that was cool! Mythbusters pressurized an old DC-9 and fired a bullet through the wall to see if it would cause an explosive decompression. It didn't. Then they fired a bullet through the window to see if the window would shatter and cause an explosive decompression. The bullet only made a small hole in the window because the windows are made of shatter-proof plastic. No explosive decompression. Then Mythbusters put explosive all around the window to blow it out and deliberately cause an explosive decompression. The crash test dummy, "Buster," was damaged but was not sucked out the window. If he had been a real person he would have been injured but probably lived. His arm was badly damaged enough that a human arm might have been lost. So Mythbusters patched everything up and used a shaped charge to blow out the whole wall. The explosive decompression ripped the entire top off the fuselage and much of the wall out, but the seats and the crash test dummy remained in the airplane. I would guess that if the "Buster" had been a live human he would have been seriously injured and possibly killed. Mythbusters then talked about how strong these airplanes really are and closed with photos of the Hawaiian Airlines plane that suffered an explosive decompression similar to the one that the show created with a shaped charge. The only person killed was a flight attendant who was pulled from the plane by the airstream, but the passengers all survived. I thought the show was fascinating. It really demonstrated the engineering that goes into an airliner. Besides, I like watching things blow up. It must appeal to my inner 12 year old. I also watched the show and one factor they did not take into account was the speed of an airliner at altitude. Also, what would happen to the forces on the damnaged airframe during the descent/emergancy landing? As in most tests, this was a controlled experiment. I'm sure if they placed the shaped charge closer to the wing root, more damnaged would occure. Still a good show, I especially like the part where they used a 22 bullet for a fuse replacement. |
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"Bob Gardner" writes:
The speed of the airplane at altitude has nothing to do with it. The pressure differential between the cabin and the great outdoors is the only factor...airspeed does not exert any pressure on the sides of the fuselage. In the case of a bullet hole, it's probably not significant (although I'd think the exit hole would would be somewhat ragged, and would stick out into the airstream, so even that might). In the more extreme cases, where they used shaped charges to blow out many square feet of fuselage, I'd have thought the airstream would be a *very* important factor in what happened next. -- David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com http://www.dd-b.net/carry/ Photos: dd-b.lighthunters.net Snapshots: www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/ Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/ |
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