Precless

Reminds me of the time I sent a pair of 'Duces' to drag main streeet
in Panama City during a revolution.

Big John
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From Afghanistan
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:43 AM

Story of the week;

So we are up in the mountains at about 0100 hrs looking for a bad
guy that we thought was in the area. Here are ten of us, pitch
black, crystal clear night, about 25 degrees. We know there are bad
guys in the area, a few shots have been fired but no big deal. We
decide that we need air cover and the only thing in the area is a
solo B-1 bomber.

He flies around at about 20,000 feet and tells us there is nothing in
the area. He then asks if we would like a low level show of force.

Stupid question. Of course we tell him yes.

The controller who is attached to the team then is heard talking to
the pilot. Pilot asks if we want it subsonic or supersonic.

Very stupid question. Pilot advises he is twenty miles out and stand
by. The controller gets us all sitting down in a line and points out
the
proper location.

You have to picture this. Pitch black, ten killers sitting down,
dead quiet and overlooking about a 30 mile long valley.

All of a sudden, way out (below our level) you see a set of four
200' white flames coming at us. The controller says, "Ah-- guys--
you might want to plug your ears". Faster than you can think a B-1,
supersonic, 1000' over our heads, blasts the sound barrier and it
feels like God just hit you in the head with a hammer". He then stands
it
straight up with 4 white trails of flame coming out and disappears.

Cost of gas for that: Probably $50,000

Hearing damage: For certain

Bunch of ragheads thinking twice about shooting at us: Priceless

Thanx Big John..

From a retired B-1 driver...

BT

"Big John" wrote in message
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Reminds me of the time I sent a pair of 'Duces' to drag main streeet
in Panama City during a revolution.

Big John

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From Afghanistan
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:43 AM

Story of the week;

So we are up in the mountains at about 0100 hrs looking for a bad
guy that we thought was in the area. Here are ten of us, pitch
black, crystal clear night, about 25 degrees. We know there are bad
guys in the area, a few shots have been fired but no big deal. We
decide that we need air cover and the only thing in the area is a
solo B-1 bomber.

He flies around at about 20,000 feet and tells us there is nothing in
the area. He then asks if we would like a low level show of force.

Stupid question. Of course we tell him yes.

The controller who is attached to the team then is heard talking to
the pilot. Pilot asks if we want it subsonic or supersonic.

Very stupid question. Pilot advises he is twenty miles out and stand
by. The controller gets us all sitting down in a line and points out
the
proper location.

You have to picture this. Pitch black, ten killers sitting down,
dead quiet and overlooking about a 30 mile long valley.

All of a sudden, way out (below our level) you see a set of four
200' white flames coming at us. The controller says, "Ah-- guys--
you might want to plug your ears". Faster than you can think a B-1,
supersonic, 1000' over our heads, blasts the sound barrier and it
feels like God just hit you in the head with a hammer". He then stands
it
straight up with 4 white trails of flame coming out and disappears.

Cost of gas for that: Probably $50,000

Hearing damage: For certain

Bunch of ragheads thinking twice about shooting at us: Priceless

Cost of gas for that: Probably $50,000

Awesome!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Cost of gas for that: Probably $50,000

Awesome!
--
Jay Honeck

Compute the cost.. normal low level operations at about 540Knts runs appx
36,000pph (that's pounds per hour fuel flow for those not used to jet
engines), I used to plan at 38,000pph average to allow slower times and high
speed dashes.

One gallon of JP8 weighs appx 6.5 pounds (rounded), that's 5540 gallons per
hour (rounded), at a buckfifty / gal that's $8,310 per hour (rounded). The
apx 5 minute run, ok, I'll give him 10 minutes on the run, $1385.

But that's at 540Knt or about .88M depending on altitude, rack that up to
Full Afterburner and greater than 1.0M and the fuel flow meter is off the
scale. But rack the pph up to 100,000pph and the math still works out to
less than $4000 for fuel.

Now, add in the cost of crew training, aircraft maintenance and investment
in the airframe. And it does start adding up.

BT

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:09:38 -0600, Big John wrote:

[story of invaders in foreign country messing around with civilians etc snipped]

Cost of gas for that: Probably $50,000

what about a death toll? maybe they hit 5 families? collateral damage? for
sure ...

Hearing damage: For certain

*big applaus* - oh how proud one must be of people showing off different
methods of killing people. do you want me to kill them subsonic or
supersonic?

Bunch of ragheads thinking twice about shooting at us: Priceless

you forgot:
demonstration of american reckless behaviour in foreign countries: as usual

#m

--
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990509

In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:09:38 -0600, Big John wrote:

[story of invaders in foreign country messing around with civilians etc
snipped]

"messing around with civilians"? get a grip on reality. Perhaps
you'd like to go back and read the post.


Cost of gas for that: Probably $50,000

what about a death toll? maybe they hit 5 families? collateral damage?
for
sure ...

from a high speed pass?



Hearing damage: For certain

*big applaus* - oh how proud one must be of people showing off different
methods of killing people. do you want me to kill them subsonic or
supersonic?

yeah, a supersonics pass will kill so many.



Bunch of ragheads thinking twice about shooting at us: Priceless

you forgot:
demonstration of american reckless behaviour in foreign countries: as
usual

perhaps, but it didn't take long for the anti-americans to demonstrate
their hatred.

--
Bob Noel

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:31:39 GMT, Bob Noel wrote:

demonstration of american reckless behaviour in foreign countries: as
usual

perhaps, but it didn't take long for the anti-americans to demonstrate
their hatred.

I am not anti-american per-se

I don't 'hate' all americans just for their being american (americans have
a similar choice for being americn as I have for being european) - this
would be crazy and very shortminded.

it is the recless behaviour outside america from those in command (I really
don't care [well - from a human rights standpoint I do care] what you do
within your border).

#m

--
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990509

"Bob Noel" wrote in message


perhaps, but it didn't take long for the anti-americans to demonstrate
their hatred.

Google for "martin hotze" and you'll see that he has quite a history of
anti-American posts. Why bother feeding his trolling posts?

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
____________________

Martin and all,

The fellow that wrote the below email worked for me for several years,
then got another job that involved a lot of traveling. As you can
see, he was near the WTC on 9/11. So I, a California native and
resident, personally know someone greatly affected by 9/11.

Another acquaintance from my small town, a baker, was compelled to
bake some goodies, fly back to NYC during the cleanup, and hand them
out to the workers, all at his own expense.

Probably most Americans have similar stories. I remember seeing the
pictures and videos of people jumping from the towers, and thinking to
myself, this could have been me: one moment, you're starting work, cup
of coffee in hand, yakking with your work buddies--an hour later
you're deciding that suicide by jumping is preferable to being burned
alive. Did you talk it over with those same work buddies---how many
were still alive? Did you have a chance to call your spouse, say
goodbye to anyone you love?

I also remember news pictures and stories of Palestinians laughing and
celebrating, of OBL snickering and smiling at his handiwork. So cut
us some slack if we enjoy an occasional moment ourselves. That
doesn't make any of it right. It just makes us human, after all.

Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:17 AM
To: Jill
Subject: Hi


Hi Jill,
Its been a long time since I heard from you. How are you doing?

Things have been very depressing since Sept. 11. I was in NYC on the
day of the attack. I was actually walking past tower 2 crossing over
towards liberty plaza when the first plane hit. It was so surreal that
I still don't believe it actually happened. I don't think I ever felt
as panicky as I did that day. As I was walking away from the building,
debris was coming down along with papers. One of the papers was some
firm's confidential documents and then is when it struck me. There
were people up there in the buildings. It just squeezed my heart right
there. Thankfully I was able to get away without any injuries. It was
a long wait to get the ferry out to NJ and then the Greyhound back to
********. I don't think I have ever wanted to come home so bad.

Anyway, this week I am in *******. I really like this place. Next
week I am headed for NYC again. I haven't felt like a movie in weeks,
but I do now. Did you see any interesting movies this summer? Fall is
just around the corner and I just love that slight tinge of summer
that hangs in the air. Say hi to my friends. More later -- ******

Martin Hotze wrote:
I am not anti-American per-se
I don't 'hate' all Americans just for their being American (Americans have
a similar choice for being American as I have for being european) - this
would be crazy and very shortminded.
It is the reckless behaviour outside America from those in command (I really
don't care [well - from a human rights standpoint I do care] what you do
within your border).

Well, if it weren't for the messes the Europeans create, we wouldn't be
where we are.
And if it wasn't for the Americans, the world wouldn't be as well off as
it is today.