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After the cold front passed last night, my instrument student and I took off
VFR from FCI, about 11 miles from Richmond Intl (just outside of Class C). We had just departed 33, climbing though 1200MSL when I spotted traffic in the distance to the west. On this particular evening, Potomac approach was bringing in IFR arrivals to RIC down to 2000 right over FCI. The traffic pattern at FCI is 1200. Upon spotting the traffic we leveled off at about 1400, and turned towards the north. Meanwhile, we just switched over from CTAF to the Potomac Approach facility, were the controller was pointing us out to the MD80, who only saw us on TCAS. After the traffic was no longer a factor, we climbed to 2000, proceeded on course, and requested advisories from Approach. After the controller gave us a squawk code, he chewed us our for not calling him sooner. "You should call us before you reach about 1200 ft because we have arrivals from the west and you caused a MD80 to get a TCAS RA." I suspect our initial climb out of the pattern was interpreted by TCAS as being on a collision course. I replied, "Roger, we had the traffic in sight and changed our course accordingly." The controller replied "fine, but I don't know you had him in sight. Call us earlier next time." me: "Roger." Conditions were good VFR. I think the controller was annoyed that the MD80 had to change his course to avoid traffic. I don't think it's reasonable to expect us to be contacting approach before we leave the pattern in VFR conditions. I wasn't going to argue that over the frequency. Points to Ponder- -Always scan for traffic -Follow the Right-of-way rules (my student initially wanted to turn to the left, but the traffic was proceeding directly towards us) -ATC knows how to control traffic, but they're not pilots (usually) so they may not consider operations that don't involve them, i.e. non-towered pattern operations. -Airline crews need to practice see and avoid in VFR conditions even if they're IFR, especially when proceeding over an airport traffic pattern at 1800 AGL. |
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