Reporting an Aviation Accident

The Canadian and US regulations state reporting procedures and the
conditions under which a accident plane can be moved. But what is the
procedure for this scenario:

Two planes are involved in a midair enroute from Canada to the US. The
midair happens in Canadian Airspace but the planes land in the US. Both
planes are seriously damaged. Is it an offence to land anywhere but the
nearest suitable airport? Which authority must be notified? Once the
planes have landed, can they be moved from the place they stopped without
permission from the investigating authority? (i.e. Moved from the ramp to a
hangar.)

Le Moo

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 22:03:55 -0500, "Happy Dog"
wrote:

The Canadian and US regulations state reporting procedures and the
conditions under which a accident plane can be moved. But what is the
procedure for this scenario:

Two planes are involved in a midair enroute from Canada to the US. The
midair happens in Canadian Airspace but the planes land in the US. Both
planes are seriously damaged. Is it an offence to land anywhere but the
nearest suitable airport? Which authority must be notified? Once the
planes have landed, can they be moved from the place they stopped without
permission from the investigating authority? (i.e. Moved from the ramp to a
hangar.)

Le Moo



Call everybody, let them work it out, and stop trolling.

z

"zatatime" wrote in message
wrote:

The Canadian and US regulations state reporting procedures and the
conditions under which a accident plane can be moved. But what is the
procedure for this scenario:

Two planes are involved in a midair enroute from Canada to the US. The
midair happens in Canadian Airspace but the planes land in the US. Both
planes are seriously damaged. Is it an offence to land anywhere but the
nearest suitable airport? Which authority must be notified? Once the
planes have landed, can they be moved from the place they stopped without
permission from the investigating authority? (i.e. Moved from the ramp to
a
hangar.)

Le Moo

Call everybody, let them work it out, and stop trolling.

Thanks for the informed response. Trolls usually post from anonymous
addresses though, idiot.

m

Call everybody, let them work it out, and stop trolling.

Thanks for the informed response. Trolls usually post from anonymous
addresses though, idiot.

If a "seriously damaged" plane can land anywhere the LAST thing the persons
on board are going to worry about is some silly regulation or which country
it's in.

Amd you call HIM an idiot!

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:45:56 -0500, "John Harlow"
wrote:

Call everybody, let them work it out, and stop trolling.

Thanks for the informed response. Trolls usually post from anonymous
addresses though, idiot.

If a "seriously damaged" plane can land anywhere the LAST thing the persons
on board are going to worry about is some silly regulation or which country
it's in.

Amd you call HIM an idiot!

Thank you.

z

"zatatime" wrote in message

If a "seriously damaged" plane can land anywhere the LAST thing the
persons
on board are going to worry about is some silly regulation or which
country
it's in.

Amd you call HIM an idiot!

Thank you.

For the support? I can see how you might need it. You don't really
understand the issues raised here. But your contribution is priceless
anyway.

m

"John Harlow" wrote in message
...
Call everybody, let them work it out, and stop trolling.

Thanks for the informed response. Trolls usually post from anonymous
addresses though, idiot.

If a "seriously damaged" plane can land anywhere the LAST thing the
persons on board are going to worry about is some silly regulation or
which country it's in.

Amd you call HIM an idiot!

"John Harlow" wrote in message
Call everybody, let them work it out, and stop trolling.

Thanks for the informed response. Trolls usually post from anonymous
addresses though, idiot.

If a "seriously damaged" plane can land anywhere the LAST thing the
persons on board are going to worry about is some silly regulation or
which country it's in.

Until they're on the ground. After that you don't know, do you?

Amd you call HIM an idiot!

Correct.

moo

Is it an offence to land anywhere but the
nearest suitable airport?

As far as I'm aware it isn't an offense to crash anywhere other than the
nearest airport - which appears to be what you are describing.

Which authority must be notified?
Initially the US - that's where the planes crashed.
Where were the aircraft registered?


Once the
planes have landed, can they be moved from the place they stopped without
permission from the investigating authority?

Not unless they pose an immediate threat

Tony



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Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

"tony roberts" wrote in message

Is it an offence to land anywhere but the
nearest suitable airport?

As far as I'm aware it isn't an offense to crash anywhere other than the
nearest airport - which appears to be what you are describing.

If you thought (thought?) that you could continue on would it be an offense
to land anywhere but the nearest suitable airport? I'm guessing that
arguing that you believed the plane to still be airworthy wouldn't fly, as
it were. So, there would be no excuse for landing anywhere but the closest
airport. That might result in an illegal entry vis a vis immigration
authorities but the emergency justifies it. (I know a case where a Canadian
student lost electrical power on a night solo and landed at a US airport.
He was given very little trouble by US authorities. Pre 9/11 though.)

Which authority must be notified?

Initially the US - that's where the planes crashed.

I would suspect. But is it an offence not to contact the TSB in Canada per
Canadian regulations? (AIP GEN 3)

Where were the aircraft registered?

I believe they're US based.


Once the
planes have landed, can they be moved from the place they stopped without
permission from the investigating authority?

Not unless they pose an immediate threat

My interpretation as well.

Thanks.

m