Barbra Olson Story Debunked! Proof Cellphones Work in Aircraft.

Sport Pilot wrote:

If not I have attached their group to
this post so some of them may enlighten us as to the use of cellphones
in aircraft.

Please don't make a practice of this.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

I won't. But I thought that some in this group could get a good laugh
at what these kooks are saying. Plus let us know how well cell phones
work from aircraft.

"Sport Pilot" wrote in message
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I won't. But I thought that some in this group could get a good laugh
at what these kooks are saying. Plus let us know how well cell phones
work from aircraft.


They not only work from aircraft, but the FAA is considering lifting the ban
on their use if their studies find them to be safe:
http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/09/tech...ones_inflight/

"John E. Carty" wrote:

They not only work from aircraft, but the FAA is considering lifting the ban
on their use if their studies find them to be safe:

That's the FCC - the FAA has no ban on cell phones.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

I think the FAA has an AC which tells the owners/operators the
potential dangers of using them. Thus the commercial carriers ban
thier use. Up to GA pilots to determine that for themself. Doubt it
would ever be a problem for VFR.
G.R. Patterson III wrote:
"John E. Carty" wrote:

They not only work from aircraft, but the FAA is considering
lifting the ban
on their use if their studies find them to be safe:

That's the FCC - the FAA has no ban on cell phones.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble
enterprise.

"John E. Carty" wrote in
om:

Plus let us know how well cell
phones work from aircraft.


They not only work from aircraft, but the FAA is considering lifting
the ban on their use if their studies find them to be safe:

Apples and Oranges. The release on the ban has to do with the safety of
intentional radiator on aircraft. The phones still won't be "working"
as they normally would (i.e. talking to "cell towers" along the route)
but rather to a "cell tower" located within the aircraft, and from there
linked to the airlines own communications equipment, and from there into
the POTS network. Admittedly, to the guy holding his phone to his ear,
he won't see much difference (except on his next bill).

Now, ignoring the above type of system, will the thing work at all?
Well, that's a big question with more variables than knowns. Older
analog (AMPS) systems (i.e. the original and only true "cell" phones)
work pretty good at reasonable aircraft altitudes and speeds, legal
issues not withstanding. Modern digital (aka PCS) type phones do not...
usually limited to about 2000 AGL. However, as they say, your mileage
may vary - and does, widely, depending on location. But... many modern
digital phones are equipped to try a variety of protocols in a fallback
mode. So even a modern "world phone" *may* work at altitude.

Bottom line - do they work in an aircraft; no. Do I believe someone
made a "cell phone" call from an aircraft in any specific case? Sure.

jmk

"James M. Knox" wrote in message
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"John E. Carty" wrote in
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Now, ignoring the above type of system, will the thing work at all?
Well, that's a big question with more variables than knowns. Older
analog (AMPS) systems (i.e. the original and only true "cell" phones)
work pretty good at reasonable aircraft altitudes and speeds, legal
issues not withstanding. Modern digital (aka PCS) type phones do not...
usually limited to about 2000 AGL.

I regularly make phone calls with my PCS phone from 10,000 feet AGL in my
own plane. I have never had any trouble with it. I made such a call
yesterday, in fact.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Now, ignoring the above type of system, will the thing work at all?
Well, that's a big question with more variables than knowns. Older
analog (AMPS) systems (i.e. the original and only true "cell" phones)
work pretty good at reasonable aircraft altitudes and speeds, legal
issues not withstanding. Modern digital (aka PCS) type phones do not...
usually limited to about 2000 AGL.

I regularly make phone calls with my PCS phone from 10,000 feet AGL in my
own plane. I have never had any trouble with it. I made such a call
yesterday, in fact.

If it can work over several miles laterally in rolling terrain, why wouldn't
it work for 2-5 miles vertically?
--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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"John E. Carty" wrote:

They not only work from aircraft, but the FAA is considering lifting the
ban
on their use if their studies find them to be safe:

That's the FCC - the FAA has no ban on cell phones.

And the FCC has no ban on PCS phones.

Sport Pilot wrote:

I think the FAA has an AC which tells the owners/operators the
potential dangers of using them. Thus the commercial carriers ban
thier use. Up to GA pilots to determine that for themself. Doubt it
would ever be a problem for VFR.

No, the FCC bans use of cell phones in the air. The FAA has a blanket statement
about "electronic devices" but makes no statements whatsoever specific to cell
phones. The FCC ban has nothing to do with danger to the aircraft or whether
they will work in the air. The problem is that some of the older ground systems
have problems with a phone in the air. It reaches multiple receivers (cells) and
causes conflicts on the ground.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.